Hi, just wanted to say hello to everyone here at MMA

Les Szabo · Post by **Les Szabo** » Thu May 19, 11 2:20 pm

Thanks Gareth, well you never know, haven't been attending at all really, only just got the interest back a bit after going to F&Benny's last month and seeing those Mopar's. Lost touch with everyone, none of my mates are really into it so driving out on your jack makes it a bit dull, I'll try and persuade my mate to take a trip out, he was into cars.....Les

Mick · Post by **Mick** » Thu May 19, 11 10:01 pm

what did................. the duster came to me of ashley as rough as rats the fibre work was all raw and the only steel bit the roof was rusty, i sold it to a mate of mine that had all the body done/respray/then put the graphics on it

Maybe you're right on the condition but the paint scheme looked better, the stripes ruined it for me.
I believe it's a very light car and the guy was building it to be a street car.
He said Chriss Isaacs did the chassis.

Cannonball · Post by **Cannonball** » Thu May 19, 11 10:24 pm

Mick wrote:what did................. the duster came to me of ashley as rough as rats the fibre work was all raw and the only steel bit the roof was rusty, i sold it to a mate of mine that had all the body done/respray/then put the graphics on it

Maybe you're right on the condition but the paint scheme looked better, the stripes ruined it for me.
I believe it's a very light car and the guy was building it to be a street car.
He said Chriss Isaacs did the chassis.

mick i can not see how you liked the paint scheme before as it did not have one, if its the duster that ashley had built and like you said threw his toys out about the cost of the front grille, and yes think chris isaacs built it, it had all its tinwork with it and some lovely chrome moly wheeli bars,
i had it off ash bare no paint to speak off, fitted a stout 440 made some headers and sold it to a mate he had it painted black put the stripes on it within a week of the paint and the decals within a week of that and no one outside of crewe ever saw it, he then sold it to the boys you see with it at the track, and not bein picky with you mick..

sorry bout the thread hjijack lez

Les Szabo · Post by **Les Szabo** » Sat May 21, 11 6:31 pm

no probs mate........

was going to post up the spec of the '69 if anyone thinks it may help in anyway as to what was acheiveable 20yrs ago. I guess monies a lot tighter now and parts a lot more expensive but a lot more available, maybe you don't need that stroker kit or mega pair of heads to acheive your goals?... let us know if anyone thinks it may help in keeping costs down, although I know you guys are very knowledgeable and up to date....Les

charger01 · Post by **charger01** » Sat May 21, 11 6:47 pm

Post up as much as you can Les. Lots of us here still learning.

Les Szabo · Post by **Les Szabo** » Sat May 21, 11 7:54 pm

ok well here goes then, hope it gives a few ideas/savings, keep it short

Car..1969 Cuda, Race spec

Engine:
440 6-pack, std bottom end, rod weight 2lb ea, std pistons 10.5:1, 1100gms ea., internally balanced, and weight matched.
Camshaft, Comp Cams Flat tappet, .650 lift
Heads, 906 Ported, 2.14 inlet/1.81 exh., HS Roller Rockers, triple springs with small spring taken out, all set up to exact length.
Oiling, single external line Milodon, deep sump.
Induction, Team G Race, +2" spacer+N20 plate, high as I could get it. 850dp Holley used on the 340, 50cc front pump, 80fr jets/86 rear, no.31 extended shooters,
2/14" Fenderwells with 12" extensions.

Transmission:
727, Full Manual, std pattern, 8" 4200 Converter. Mr G. Shifter

Ignition:- Accel electronic with std MSD6A, NGK 7's, 38 deg total all in at 3000rpm

N20- Cheater Big Shot plate kit, 2 x Holley Race pumps, 2 x 1/2" fuel lines, seperate pump for fuel for N20. simple on/off arming switch, 15lb UK bottle, microswitch set for max hit on WOT.

Chassis:-
2x3 rear rails, std 8 3/4", narrowed 2" per side, Strange 33 spline shafts, strange spool, 4.88 richmond gears, Coil overs/ladder Bars, loop and balanced prop with long u-bolts. 12x15 wheels, Tyres, 14x32 Hoosier's at 4-5psi.

Car weight with me approx 2900lbs....wasn't light

Best on motor 10.71 @ 126 I think, could've got it to mid to lowish tens with a bit of fiddling.
Best with N20 175hp shot...9.96 @ 133.90 at a trap rpm of 7600!!!!.tooo much.

There you have it, hope thats not been too boring, reckon with a drop to 4.56 or 4.30's and maybe a slightly tighter converter, I could've gone mid 9's and with the 250 shot yet to come, well...?

Car ran sweet with this set up, ticked over like a stocker, never tipped a plug with N20 and very low maintenance.

So nothing too fancy, the only chrome bit on the car was the r/covers, and that was only cos of the height needed for the roller rockers.

Hope this helps a little, if any? for your future or present builds. The car cost me a bit under £9k total inc buying it for 3k and spending 3k on an ex Dinger engine which I only got the heads and rocker gear out of after it blew

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Out come the calculators for ratio/tyre size/hp/trap speed etc

Les

db · Post by db » Sat May 21, 11 8:28 pm

Great info

I'm no racer but it's fascinating to see what makes a quick & consistent car. As you say, no big-buck parts there, just well thought out mods and nothing that ain't needed.

Post by **TyreFryer** » Sat May 21, 11 8:34 pm

db wrote:I'm no racer....

I'm getting the impression you will be soon though Paul.

Jon Connolly · Post by **Jon Connolly** » Sat May 21, 11 8:54 pm

Nice one Les

Loads of gear though ???

Bet that was quick in 1/8th ???

db · Post by db » Sun May 22, 11 8:46 am

TyreFryer wrote:
db wrote:I'm no racer....
I'm getting the impression you will be soon though Paul.

I wish mate...

Les Szabo · Post by **Les Szabo** » Sun May 22, 11 11:18 am

Jon Connolly wrote:Nice one Les

Loads of gear though ???

Bet that was quick in 1/8th ???

Apart from the N20, the biggest gain were the Heads, about 80hp worth, I remember running the small 125hp N20 a couple of times and managed a 10.21 which was more suited to the 4.88's and 32's rpm wise, just didn't have the time to fiddle about with it all for a 9, but reckon I could've got there.

That last 9 sec run with 175hp took me by suprise some, never forget it...
it was a case of launch and shift 2nd almost at the same time as I watched the Tach needle go way past 7000rpm !!!!, thats why it goes left a bit in the vid, must've pulled on the s/wheel as I hit 2nd, never thought it would be quite so violent. And as I said, I would've changed to a 4.5 gear or similar probably to reduce top end rpm if I carried on......and maybe a set of B1 heads.....reckon there was an 8 in that car

Mick · Post by **Mick** » Sun May 22, 11 12:21 pm

Was the comp cam, the one with .290 duration at .050.

Les Szabo · Post by **Les Szabo** » Sun May 22, 11 4:21 pm

yes I think thats the one it was...

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon May 30, 11 4:48 pm

Hi Les , good to have you on here

, you seem to have woken the site up a bit , interesting posts too.

AKA Brutus.

mopar_mark · Post by **mopar_mark** » Mon May 30, 11 4:56 pm

Brutus wrote:Hi Les , good to have you on here , you seem to have woken the site up a bit , interesting posts too.

Hi Brutus, how goes it .....