Plain stupid. The people responsible should be prosecuted and the people stupid enough to stand there need brain transplants.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 07 9:57 pm
by BUDGIE
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 07 10:03 pm
by newport100
When i first read the thread I imagined a local type car show with a souped up street car laying some rubber and getting into trouble ending in a tragic accident-
Watched the Vid and cant believe my eyes!!!
That is absolutey stupid!!!
to state the obvious - an accident waiting to happen
how do they get these events up and running in the land of "ill sue at the drop of a hat?
feel very bad for the victims and families
(and yeah I know my Avatar is not in good taste - i hold my hands up to that)
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 07 10:05 pm
by Dave-R
mmm. Kettle, pot, black.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 07 10:10 pm
by newport100
yeah ,yeah Dave I know - wont do it again....
I just like me avatar tho...
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 07 10:29 pm
by Kev
As I stated, unprepped road. As you say, hundreds of times at the prepped strip, no problamo.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 07 10:51 pm
by Anonymous
Just the same on the rac rally people getting closer and closer ..
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 07 12:41 pm
by AllKiller
At a car show in Worscester Mass, they have a burnout comp that goes on most of the night, organised by the show staff and the local police ??......but anyway, they do the burn outs at the begining of an underpass and the crowd all stand on the concrete walk ways 12 feet plus above, safe and away from any potential disaster....it also gives everyone a clear view of the action. its very good some 500-600 cars take part.
Cant see that happening over here though ..police closing an underpass for some muscle car lunacy
My deepest condolences to the to the families concerned
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 07 4:54 pm
by Stu
That link to the video didn't work for me, but I found this.
Actually wish I hadn't...
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 07 5:11 pm
by Anonymous
isnt that Troy Critchley's car? the 1st 5 sec pro mod? if so its a 70 cuda, same sponser on the side of the car in the video,
Very sad and complete stupidity
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 07 5:50 pm
by Anonymous
Typical modern day response, the woman taking the video rather than putting the thing away and helping people just stands there in the way and keeps filming. Reminds me of the floods in Mozambique where they ran out of rescue choppers because the press had hired them all out! They should prosecute her for filming other peoples misery and I bet it didn't take her long to get on the phone to the news broadcasters. And what is with the interview??? It's the equivalent of asking a hermit his view on world politics!
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 07 6:31 pm
by AllKiller
With you there James
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 07 6:47 pm
by MrNorm
Really really tragic. Easy to point the finger too, but this is pretty far removed from a static burnout in a street car on the street........
This was a competition! They had a tree and were timing the 60ft's. Critchley wasn't the first to go, others had already done it. This was an annual event, there were guardrails at the beginning etc. The competitors were asked there specificially to put on a show and that's what the organisers wanted.
Who is to blame? the driver, certainly, the organisers too. Maybe even a hint of the public for not being behind the guardrails - I really don't know, but is this different from rally spectator deaths when they stand close to the action??
Clearly it was madness to make such a long pass under these conditions, he was doing a serious speed by the time he crashed. Any professional driver should have not let anything overule his judgement in that respect, whatever the pressures. No doubt it has ruined his life as well.
So from my perspective it is just a terrible, tragic, event. Blame can certainly be apportioned and most likely the driver and the organisers will be sued, but there are no winners.
Anyway, to draw parallels between this and a static street car burnout is stretching it a bit to put it mildly. That's another subject we all have views on no doubt, IMHO it's still a question of understanding the risks and not doing anything likely to have bad consequences. It's all still based on judgement though, and we all suffer from a lack of perfect judgement......
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 07 7:52 pm
by Anonymous
AllKiller wrote:With you there James
How do you mean Steve? At the show or Mozambique? Neither, I was merely drawing a parallel of what seems to be the natural response these days when people are in trouble. I could have used any recent disaster as an example, video footage of people being swept to their death in the Tsunami shouting for help from the camera man who is far too busy capturing the "mood on the ground" to actually risk assisting them.
Maybe I am being too hard on people for their reactions to fear, but to video it is a bit much. As far as I am concerned filming the crash is unavoidable since no-one could predict the future. But then to turn the camera back on to capture people who may be dying or seriously injured is purely sick, regarless of if they are amature or professional camera people.