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Tony's post was ace! This is the sort of nugget of info I have to wade through all the innuendo debris to get to. Top Hole, Tony!

Thanks to all of you guys who replied especially Tony for the in depth knowledge -- its refreshing to find people who genuinely want to assist -- this is my first American car (only had it 3 months) before i used to be in the TVR club (I HAD A 1973 3000M) but they seemed to be obsessed with who had the fastest or the most expensive and spent most of the time telling you how good theirs was


cheers
Steve

Ace post Tony. Especially liked the closing remarks.

I think it confirms the 70 Charger as the best of the 3 gen 2's. A great year for engine and trim options, inside and out.

(and we all knw the real reson why Dave spits about the thought of having a B Bod. He has trouble parking the big cars so he goes for the smaller, compact jobs like the E Bods )

blimey some real intresting info there TonyO ,

STEVE ADDISON wrote:but they seemed to be obsessed with who had the fastest or the most expensive and spent most of the time telling you how good theirs was

Let me tell you how great my car is.......

fantastic post Tony, many thanks

my car too has a number of options over and above the standard ‘500’ spec, and I’m actually wondering just how many ’70 Charger 500’s actually left the show room as standard 500’s, not many I’ll wager!!

my car has also an SE medallion on the dash on the passenger side, the dash is black not wood grain, I think this must have been added by a previous keeper as I don’t believe they put an SE medallion there …

Dave --No words necessary -- your picture speaks volumes

A great info post Tony, and i agree the 1970 500 is the mutts

Blimey, thanks guys for all that support. It is hard not to go into anorak mode at times.I am really glad lots enjoyed the post. 70 Chargers are very cool. The intended 70 Daytonas would have been the coolest street cars out there.But thats history. Right now the Chargers that are fetching mucho high dollar are the SE 71 cars. These are usually packed with options and hide away lights etc, with a big block they are way cool, also you are not paying R/T money!!! buy the way 71 Super Bee's really rock as well.

Tony,

if there had of been a 70 Daytona, do you think it would have looked massively different from the 69? I can't see it being much more than a few tweaks as there couldnt have been any where else they could go. Did it ever make the drawing board before it was canned?

Clive, you pose an interesting question.
Officially a Dodge Daytona could be ordered in 1970, infact its part of the Dodge Scat Pack sales offerings for that year. You may recall the literature, with many Mopar/Dodge drivers giving examples of the 70 models they liked. The gang were Garlits, Landy, Glotzback I think and Don White who took up the Daytona mantra. Very much like Dodge getting infront of themselves by offering a 71 T/A Challenger, I still think one or two exist, somewhere.
Back to the Tona, at least three 70 Daytonas have surfaced, all Six Pack cars, V coded. At least one is a fake, the other two look like factory pilot cars. Many folks do not believe any 70 Tona exisited. A certain brown car used by Dodge Public Relations for press releases definatley existed. Is it still with us, who knows. As with the whole wing car thing, there is a lot of miss information and fantasy. Everything from the actual numbers to how the cars were built are questionable.
However, remember this, Daytonas were delivered to dealers around April 69, they came with loads of 70 Charger parts.The nascar crown for 69 was won by Petty in a Ford, the Daytona, a 69 model won the 70 Nascar season. So it maked sense for Dodge to offer the Daytona in its 1970 line-up.
The 70 cars do not have a flush rear window, have the R/T hood scoops, 70 rear lights and mouldings and a loop front bumper, also in the interior department they are all 1970. Hi back seats, knob turning radios and woodgrain shifters, all three are auto cars and sunroofed!!Nice racing mirrors as well, the blue car has magnums but the green and brown cars have 15" Rallyes.
Infact Paul Harbournes Black Dayclona, would probably had been better built as a 70 car as he has kept the door scoops and rear light applique etc.
The crux is what and who to believe, just like the 1971 Superbirds!!

more intresting / fascinating info TonyO
seam to remember reading about a 70 plumb crazy 6 pack also ,had the nose & wing put on at a dealer , & it was documented in the sales contract from memory , might be getting mixed up with something else though

Lots of Info here
http://aerowarriors.com/70dcd.html


Not sure about the stripe

Thanks Tony, an interesting read. Being a member of the 70 Charger Registry, I do remember a lot of discussion about the authenticity of the claimed '70 Daytona's' that had surfaced at the odd show or two. Trouble is, its difficult to know what to believe just as you say.

Paul Harbourne's car is as I would imagine one. But much as I like the scoops on the 70 cars, they shouldnt really be on a Daytona as they serve no function whatsoever, and never could unlike the reverse facing ones on the 69 Tonas and 70 birds used for wheel / tyre clearance on the racng cars.

The 70 Daytonas were to be built by Chrysler in-house, at the St louis plant, the plan was to keep the cars as R/T Chargers and just add on the other parts such as wing, nosecone etc. this would keep the costs down. Remember that Creative Industries did the conversions on the 69 Daytonas and it cost Chrysler muco dosh. The budget was never going to be that big again.