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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 11:21 am
by Pete
I think you have your winter project :thumbright:

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 11:22 am
by latil
FWD Formula 1 cars were banned because of their advantage over RWD. Better traction/acceleration and,irrelevant here,cornering. There couldn't have been many concerns over the extra weight and power losses.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 11:27 am
by Pete
.................or work on the basis that if the idea had practical merit someone would have already done it :read2:

I gues Brunel didn't work on that basis then! :D

That would be interesting Jon.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 11:29 am
by Jon Benn
Martin, as Steve says you have to compensate for extra drive lines and loss of power through gears, somewhere I have a write up on Don Garlits Sidewinder, they took a known combination, turned the Hemi through 90 degrees and lost HUGE amounts of power through the extra gears needed to drive the wheels. I'll see if I can find it for you.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 11:32 am
by TyreFryer
Pete wrote:.................or work on the basis that if the idea had practical merit someone would have already done it :read2:
I guess Brunel didn't work on that basis then! :D

That would be interesting Jon.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 11:58 am
by Pete
TyreFryer wrote:
Pete wrote:.................or work on the basis that if the idea had practical merit someone would have already done it :read2:
I guess Brunel didn't work on that basis then! :D


I would think Brunel's R&D budget was a bit bigger than yours ;)

I am all for trying new things, other than Line dancing, voting tory and homosexuality; but you have to be realistic on what you can achieve (or in my case under-achieve)

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 12:11 pm
by TyreFryer
Pete wrote:I would think Brunel's R&D budget was a bit bigger than yours ;)
Absolutely, talking theory here though Pete, that doesn't cost anything. :) Just wonder WHY nobody has tried it, even back in the earlier days of drag racing.

Thanks Julian, that's interesting.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 12:44 pm
by AllKiller
This makes very good reading on power and loss through drive trains :read2:

http://www.superstang.com/horsepower.htm

And did anyone else notice that HP and TQ figures always cross @ 5,252 RPM ?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 1:06 pm
by Kev
Pete wrote:[ I am all for trying new things, other than Line dancing, voting tory and homosexuality; )
Glad to see you would consider Morris Dancing, Pete :thumbright:

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 1:50 pm
by Pete
I'd be up for that if I could slap Barrymore around (in a non sexual manner)....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 08 9:55 pm
by Holly
lol, got gay on the brain, Pete?

Martin - on the traction side of this coin its worth noting that FWD drag cars run faster than AWD cars with the same amount of HP at the engine