Paints - confused and have a lot of questions!

autofetish · Post by **autofetish** » Wed Jun 19, 13 9:26 pm

Jeff wrote:I have now gone over totally to WB paint, airbrushing and full resprays.

If you need answers, let me know.

Jeff

wow good bad ????? tell us more jeff

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jun 19, 13 9:30 pm

Oh it great!

Use Du-Pont, have a mixing station now, stick the code in the computer, and it makes up the colour.

autofetish · Post by **autofetish** » Wed Jun 19, 13 9:34 pm

Jeff wrote:Oh it great!

Use Du-Pont, have a mixing station now, stick the code in the computer, and it makes up the colour.

Apart form saving whales are there any advantages

are you using a 1k clear or a 2k over top ?

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jun 19, 13 9:44 pm

Erm..... advantages are.... Dunno really they seem to spay pretty much as good as one another. WB is a little harder with fine airbrushing, but from the gun on a full respray works pretty much the same.

2K only, will not use 1K, just not worth the hassle. I want a good finish quickly. 2K does just that.

But be aware, waterbased paint are still extremely harmful if breathed in. Any atomized paint will not do you lungs any good.

Jeff

autofetish · Post by **autofetish** » Wed Jun 19, 13 9:47 pm

VGVIP · Post by **VGVIP** » Wed Jun 19, 13 9:50 pm

Jeff wrote:Upol clear is what a lot of the scratch and ding doctors use.

I have used it in the past, 1K stays soft for a very long time. So if you load a lot on, in time it will crack or craze as the underlying coats will dry slower than the top coats.

If I were you, go for some 2K clear, easier to use, flows nice and hardens real quick. And you will only need 1 1/2 coats.

Thanks Jeff.

I'll use the 1K for purposes of my learning gun control etc. and see how I get on with that then switch to 2K clear with a little more practice before I contemplate putting paint on a car. (based on what autofetish, you and a couple of pain suppliers have all said about 1K v 2K clear).

This was the basis of ordering only 1L of the 1K clear to start with - smallest size I could get.

Also keeps to the KISS principle to start with with no mixing of hardener.
Keep It Simple for Stupid.

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jun 19, 13 9:52 pm

Steve, to be honest 2K is easier to use.

VGVIP · Post by **VGVIP** » Wed Jul 10, 13 10:53 am

Had a go, learned a few valuable lessons not only about gun control but also gun assembly.
I had the air cap seal in back to front and poor material flow and no fan control was the result.

Got that sorted and reasonably happy with my results on a test panel.

Need to block it back and polish to get an idea of how it could be at it's best.,

Next plan is to get some 2K clear and have another go at it.... maybe half the panel so I can compare with these results.

Paint used so far is the water based metallic green then upol 1K clear.

The colour looks a lot different in sunlight compared to the dark shed. Both taken after painting was completed.

autofetish · Post by **autofetish** » Wed Jul 10, 13 1:27 pm

Wow looks great keep the post coming and what info you learn regarding 1k to a 2 k

VGVIP · Post by **VGVIP** » Wed Jul 10, 13 1:38 pm

Just flatted (is that the right word?) and polished half of it.

Could afford to flat a tiny bit more but can not be arsed just yet! Plan to do a little more once I have a go at 2K and see if I need to flat that.

VGVIP · Post by **VGVIP** » Wed Jul 10, 13 1:41 pm

autofetish wrote:Wow looks great keep the post coming and what info you learn regarding 1k to a 2 k

Thanks, will do.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Thu Jul 18, 13 11:50 am

Hi Steve....great work there! Looks very professional and your prep has paid off eh...

A mate of mind swears by HVLP spraying. I had a go recently and its a very easy bit of kit to use and great results. Just dont do what I did....face mask (eventually), flip flops, shorts and tshirt. Was scrubbing myself for days to get it off.

I had a bit of paintwork done on the Polara last year and I now have a modern paint code that matches the original colour well. Think the days of matching by eye are well gone now with these paint matching gismos.

Keep the pics coming mate,

Cheers Steve

VGVIP · Post by **VGVIP** » Thu Jul 18, 13 12:12 pm

Hi Steve
I'm using a hvlp turbine.
have started repairs on the bonnet. .. lots of rust bubbles.
have to take my time with the repair and prep or I'll wind up with a worse looking bonnet. paint was old and suffering but it was straight.
will post some pictures when at my laptop.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Thu Jul 18, 13 12:23 pm

Great Steve...cheers.

Im still showing friends the pics of your cars we took when we met up a while ago.....fantastic!

Cheers Steve

VGVIP · Post by **VGVIP** » Thu Jul 25, 13 11:46 pm

oops finish of the metallic is crap. too much fluid flow not atomising.
never mind ya live 'n learn!
will rub it back and start again when I have time.