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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 14 10:03 pm
by GJUK
Mick wrote:Well you wont do it by sitting on the sidelines Jon, you need to get out there and let rip.
Mick ;)
True, though my car was ill at HRD's.

Fixed now though :D, sorta.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 14 10:06 pm
by Mick
Nice try Jon but you know i meant the other wannabee racer.
I tell you what though, when you wheel that Daytona out we'll trade places for a run. :thumbright:

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 14 10:08 pm
by Jon Connolly
Mick wrote:Nice try Jon but you know i meant the other wannabee racer.
I tell you what though, when you wheel that Daytona out we'll trade places for a run. :thumbright:
You`re on !!

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 14 10:10 pm
by GJUK
They now know me as 'wannabee racer'. The legend continues. :D

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 2:08 am
by Les Szabo
Cannonball wrote:
Les Szabo wrote:
Dave81 wrote:Think that was the wheels up on Sunday Mick at 2 min in!!! 8-) :thumbright:

Half a foot clearance then (not the foot my eyes told me on then day)!!

Still a great run!! 8-)
Yep, thats one well set up Race Car....and look at the figures, couldn't be much closer.....thats 586 motor only fly hp!

60 Foot E.T. : 1.42
1/8 Mile E.T. : 6.44
1/8 Mile Trap Speed : 105.58
1/4 Mile E.T. : 10.20
1/4 Mile Trap Speed : 131
1/4 Mile Trap RPM :
in a good chassis that would go 9.90.s with that mph
Well I think I had a reasonable chassis in the '69, 4.88 gears, L-Bars/coil-overs, 3000lbs all in, 600hp, 7150 at the traps and 133.9 for that 9.96 with a 1.39 60ft, and I reckoned that was down 1 mph. Perhaps with a T-Brake, 5.13's and a super stock type 6000 launch you could knock some mph off that to 132 perhaps.

Les

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 9:05 am
by Mick
131 to almost 134 is quite a difference when trying to pull a 9.90, i think it wouldn't be easy much under 132 with a chassis similar to mine unless it was a lot lighter. Perhaps someone here can show me such a car? To be honest, that's why i dont say much when people keep telling me are you going for it, like it's easy. Although i do feel there's a 10.0 something in my car as it sits on a very good day if the moon and stars align at the same time.
Mick :thumbright:

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 9:34 am
by Mick
Here's the fastest car list from moparts. There's three guys running under 10 with less than 132, one is at 2880, so i'll discount him, one is an unknown weight and chassis type and one is legit, so i'd say there's two cars that look capable and one is definitely a similar set up to mine but look at their 60 ft times 1.35 and 1.36 ! Then you could ask other questions, do they use a trans brake ? do they have caltracs ? what does their converter stall at ?
When i had mine built, i went for a 9" that stalls at 5000 but ATI recommended a 8" that stalled at 5500, that's a very small window to work in, when you comsider i dont shift higher than 6300 and trap between 66 and 6700. ATI converters probably have more winners in stocker circles than any other manufacture so they must know what they're doing.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/sho ... ost7197018

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 10:01 am
by Jon Connolly
Mick wrote:Here's the fastest car list from moparts. There's three guys running under 10 with less than 132, one is at 2880, so i'll discount him, one is an unknown weight and chassis type and one is legit, so i'd say there's two cars that look capable and one is definitely a similar set up to mine but look at their 60 ft times 1.35 and 1.36 ! Then you could ask other questions, do they use a trans brake ? do they have caltracs ? what does their converter stall at ?
When i had mine built, i went for a 9" that stalls at 5000 but ATI recommended a 8" that stalled at 5500, that's a very small window to work in, when you comsider i dont shift higher than 6300 and trap between 66 and 6700. ATI converters probably have more winners in stocker circles than any other manufacture so they must know what they're doing.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/sho ... ost7197018


Your car and achievements are great Mick .. I printed off that Moparts list, put it on my wall and set myself targets against certain cars ;)

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 11:56 am
by Blue
Mick, there's still a fair bit of weight you could get out of your car without cutting it up or breaking the bank, a good 100lb off the nose I reckon.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 1:48 pm
by Mick
Thanks Jon but i'm not deliberately trying to pump my chest out, ( fat chance ) I put the vids up because i think they're very good, also i'd like to see more mopars out there along with the usual stalwarts.
Blue, i have one or two things in mind over the winter.
Mick

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 2:03 pm
by Les Szabo
here's an interesting extreme example of ET/mph from an SS car that launches at 6000 and runs through to 8000...and one that doesn't. Apart from the 3/100ths quicker RT the Nova was a car and a half ahead before half way at 1.21 giving him a shorter track to build speed, but still got run down as superior p/w and 8mph came into play for the Camaro.



from 1.18 and stop the vid at 1.29.

Les

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 6:07 pm
by Mick
Yes that car is very efficient and only runs a 396, has a best 60ft of 1.37. Mind you it has a 2 step, trans brake and caltracs and a 20,000 dollar motor by tilburg racing engines in new york.
Nice though and very clean.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 7:27 pm
by Dave81
GJUK wrote:I guess there is always more to come from any car. Those guys running 6 seconds are after more, the same way perhaps I amd trying to beat my pathertic 15 second run at santa pod :D
Bet a Dollar to a dime your car is at least a second quicker now it's running better/properly!

As always get it runnin right, run a time..........then the fun and expense starts! :thumbright:

I would think low to mid 13s should be an easy target for that car!

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 7:27 pm
by Cannonball
Mick wrote:in a good chassis that would go 9.90.s with that mph
Maybe in a car with ladders or four link but i still think 131 is a bit shy of 9.90's unless it's very light. Which, while mine is fairly light it's not a featherweight. When i tubbed the car and fitted a new boot floor, with hindsight i wish i'd gone to ladder bars. You can see all the wasted motion with leaf springs[/quote]
exactly your always limited running stock ish rear suspension,,,

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 14 7:30 pm
by Cannonball
Mick wrote:Here's the fastest car list from moparts. There's three guys running under 10 with less than 132, one is at 2880, so i'll discount him, one is an unknown weight and chassis type and one is legit, so i'd say there's two cars that look capable and one is definitely a similar set up to mine but look at their 60 ft times 1.35 and 1.36 ! Then you could ask other questions, do they use a trans brake ? do they have caltracs ? what does their converter stall at ?
When i had mine built, i went for a 9" that stalls at 5000 but ATI recommended a 8" that stalled at 5500, that's a very small window to work in, when you comsider i dont shift higher than 6300 and trap between 66 and 6700. ATI converters probably have more winners in stocker circles than any other manufacture so they must know what they're doing.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/sho ... ost7197018
i think a trans brake hurts leaf sprung cars et,s