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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 11:45 am
by Dave-R
Matt wrote:I fitted the offset bushes to my UCA's and got a little more castor . Still only about 3.5 degrees max though .
Can you still get those? I thought they had stopped making them. Moog were they not?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 3:30 pm
by Matt
Moog part # K7103 . Seem to be still listed . Use one set per side.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 4:21 pm
by Dave-R
Noted for reference Matt thanks.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 5:17 pm
by Anonymous
Year one sell these,they are really only used if frame rails are sagging,accident damage.I take it they only give you about 1 1/2 * more castor.I've yet to see a second gen charger self centre with P/S box.Please correct me if I'm wrong & I'm not talking about after market boxes.The more KPI you have, the better s/centre, only drawback is it tends to cause heavier steering.No problem then with P/S.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 6:20 pm
by Matt
Just checking that you know KPI is NOT the same as Caster ?
KPI is the angle of the steering axis viewed from the front of the car . Caster is the angle viewed from the side .
More caster will give you better self-centre.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 6:30 pm
by Anonymous
Yes I'm aware that it is not the same as caster,but the more KPI a vehicle has,the more it tends to 'lift the car'on one side,hence,helping to self centre the steering.working in an arc,so to speak.If mopars were designed more with a shopping trolley in mind,they might steer/drive better.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 6:31 pm
by Alex
My car is pretty heavy to steer and self centres no problem, take your time and you can set it up pretty good, oh did I mention it goes round bends as well
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 6:33 pm
by Anonymous
I take it you have a manual box then Alex?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 6:40 pm
by Matt
ah - OK
I must get my suspension textbooks out again and brush up - I'd forgotten how interesting this was ! Have never bothered looking into the effects of KPI much .
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 6:57 pm
by Dave-R
To be honest I don't recall my power steering being too bad at self centering. Not as good as the manual steering though.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 7:10 pm
by Alex
Nope, power
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 7:56 pm
by Anonymous
Alex wrote:Nope, power
So Alex,you have conquered the laws of gravity
.BTW,are you using a firm feel box?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 8:13 pm
by Alex
No, stock box, well adjusted and nicely set up, I want a car I enjoy driving so manual was out for me, I am not saying it is a Lotus 7 but it does the job, when we did Pete's Superbird I thought that was a pretty cool compromise as well.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 8:26 pm
by latil
If my C body self centres,is steady at 80mph and doesn't eat it's tyres then I must have got it about right
A real pleasure to drive.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 06 8:28 pm
by Anonymous
Nice one,well done.