Rob & Stu's 69 Sport Satellite

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Hi Anton

Retrosound also do a pair of speakers designed to go under the seats http://www.classiccarstereo.co.uk/class ... rs-en.html

But your idea of fitting them to the seat to make sure the seat can still move sounds like a goodun.

But unless this car is A LOT quieter than the Polara (it should be a bit quiter as it has, or will have when we've fitted it, more insulation material below the carpet, and the mufflers should be quieter than the Polara's Dynomax :roll: ) we'll prob struggle to hear much of what's coming out of any of the speakers, let alone appreciaiting the stereo effect this speaker may or may not give :?
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One job we have managed to finish since that last post :tumbleweed: is to get the new speaker fitted in the dash.

Once we'd realised the old speaker, as removed from the dash, was fitted to a separate mounting plate that we could remove and fit to the new speaker, the installation immediately became easier as we wouldnt have to modify the speaker or the dash :thumbright:


Old speaker with mounting plate

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with mounting plate removed

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New speaker & old mtg plate

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But when it came to fitting it, what should have been a 1/2hr job ended up taking about 3 hours yesterday cos there wasnt quite as much room as we though there would be up under the dash. Surprise surprise :roll:


Under dash with old speaker removed

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On the face of it, the new speaker looked to be a near-as-dammit straight-swap for the old one, but just where the new one is a bit fatter, it interfered with the little bracket that holds the heater/fan control cable. So after a bit of careful trimming of the nice, shiny, speaker body, we eventually managed to get it to fit.

With extra trimmage (less weight, Blue :thumbright: ) Tho we actually removed quite a bit more, by the time it fitted ok.

If you work for RetroSound, look away now........

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Hey presto

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Now that's done, we can get the radio back in and get front & rear speaker wiring finished so the carpet can go down.

In the meantime, we might also finish fitting the exhaust.... another little job that's taken longer than it should :oops:
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I know absolutely bugger all about sound system, but doesn't chopping that speaker about bugger up the sound? :roll:
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There are a few other holes in that part of the speaker and all we've done is add/enlarge a hole, so hopefully there wont be too much effect [-o<


Time will tell :?
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Ivor wrote:I know absolutely bugger all about sound system, but doesn't chopping that speaker about bugger up the sound? :roll:
Not at all. The rear of the cone is not sealed anyway. That metalwork is just a frame to mount the cone.
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Put some thick sound deader behind it and see (hear!) if it sounds better with or without. In particular in the bass.
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Thanks for the reassurance Dave, that's what i thought/hoped :)

And the advice on the sound deadener. Might try that before we put the seats in, as it's a right pain (literally) to get access up there with the seats in the way....
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Ah, that's good news, Rob and Stu can listen to Jedward now and hear every perfectly pitched note... ;)
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Ivor wrote:Ah, that's good news, Rob and Stu can listen to Jedward now and hear every perfectly pitched note... ;)
Aw thats lovely. Photoshop anyone ?
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Oi! :P

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RobTwin wrote:Oi! :P

The Proclaimers, if you dont mind! :thumbright:
Well you have to be prepared to "Walk 500 miles" if you own an old Mopar don't you. :lol:
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Time for a bit of an update....

With the speaker & console wiring in place, it was time to look into fitting the carpet. After some thought about whether to use Dynamat or similar we decided to go with a thinish 'underfelt' as a means of adding extra sound proofing.

This was decided after thinking about how the heat that comes up thru the floor on the Polara, causing condensation under its rubber mats, and what would happen to the floor if condensation formed under something like Dynamat :-k
I know it's supposed to be well stuck down to the floor but with all the contours on these floor pans we figured it would be safer to use something breatheable like an extra layer of underfelt, rather than going with the more fashionable (& heavier & more expensive ;) ) Dynamat in case there were any air pockets left under it.

Anyhoo, correct decision or not :) we got on & cut the felt we had bought at the previous NEC show, and did our best to cut it to fit the undulating floorpan. To add a bit of extra under the back seat, we used some of the old carpet that we took out. Oh and Stu's applied a bit of that felt to the trunk divider, so if any of the kids who've been put in the 'naughty trunk' kick up a fuss, they dont dusturb the grown ups in the front :D

(only joking, if anyone from Social Services are lookng in ;) )

After trawling the US forums to see what was best, we settled on a carpet from Motor Parts South, who had a reputation for fitting best, having the most generous cut in the sill & firewall areas and if you wanted to pay extra for shipping you could have it shipped flat, so as not to disturb the pre-formed shape.
We didnt have it shipped flat but it was loosely rolled, and came with separate jute backing. Having sat as flat as possible for a year or so on the trunk, it should have got back to its pre-shipped state by the time we came to fit it last weekend.

First impressions are yes there's plenty of material (unlike other makes I've read about like ACC :shock: ) but it is a bit baggy in places, esp over the tunnel, so we may add a bit more felt under there.

As there's no pre-cut holes for anything, it's a bit of a fiddle trying to get the heel pad position correct in relation to the pedal and the dimmer switch but after checking as best we could to find its correct position and also making sure the humps & bumps in the floor fitted the shape of the carpet, we took the plunge and got at it with the Stanley knife :twisted:

Havent cut any seat or seatbelt holes yet, but as soon as we get the front seats in I'm sure the loose areas will be be held a bit flatter and tighter. Then we can cut the carpet for the sill plates.

Also fitted some bits to the console 'body' yesterday. Just need to find the carpet bits that we got a year or so ago from Legendary, that attach to the console :scratch:

Just to see what it looked like we laid it in position before end of play yesterday, and it does look nice with the new carpet 8-) Well, not bad for what it cost, compared to buying new repop bits.

NB - the odd bits of metal bolted to the floor (1 round & 1 rectangular) were just used to hold the felt in position while we fiddled with the carpet ;)


Floor cleaned....

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Trial-fit of jute backing...

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Underfelt....

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With jute backing in position.....

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Our attempt to make the switch work without getting caught up with the carpet. Not supposed to use the grommet, apparently, as they werent fitted originally ;)

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Checked out as best we could where the hole should be for the pedal and saw pics of original carpets with the hole completely within the heel pad, completely in front of, and half-on / half-off. This is where ours ended up, having tried to match the bumps in the carpet with those in the floor.

Not something we thought was going to be complicated or important before we started, but as you start to look into how something should be, you get a bit caught up in trying to do it the proper way.. or at least we seem to :lol:

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Reinforced the cut-out with some thin rubber stuck to the back...

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Also stuck a bit on the back of the switch hole...

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Console trial-fit....

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Stu's also fitted the new shoulder bit of the seat belts. Looks a bit too 'baggy' tho so we'll do something about that before someone hangs themselves getting in or out of the car :)

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Oh and one more thing that needed sorting was where the speedo cable crosses above the exhaust :roll: Used some silicon sleeving on the cable and some plumbers soldering mat on the exhaust, retained by ally tubing...

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Well done twins, seems to be going back together ok, on the saggy seat belt, I just put a couple of cable ties to keep it out or the way, no one has ever noticed ( I think ) or at least they haven't said.
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Derek wrote:Well done twins, seems to be going back together ok, on the saggy seat belt, I just put a couple of cable ties to keep it out or the way, no one has ever noticed ( I think ) or at least they haven't said.
I agree, coming together very nicely :thumbright: :thumbright:

As for the seat belt, couldn't you use Velcro with self adhesive tape

This sort of stuff
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Velcro-Self-A ... 329wt_1165
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I know it's not right for your year of car, but on the 70 satellite etc., they had a couple of clips along the roof that you could tuck the belt behind.
Just a thought .......... ;)

Looking sweeeeet by the way =P~ :thumbright:
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