Re: Matt's 1970 'Trans-Am' Cuda
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 19 3:23 pm
if your cone unit is "Side gear and cone" as 1 complete part a rebuild is a No No ( integral cone slip resistant sure grip like the auburn units)
if it is a separated cone and side gear slip resistant diff it works better for street and track than a clutch diff, seemingly they work in the snow and on sand and everything..... and is indeed rebuildable ONCE
rebuild is eminently possible.
details here
http://www.geocities.ws/luckyducky_9670 ... 0Nov04.pdf
http://mpikas.blogspot.com/2008/03/rebu ... -cone.html
gist of it is
take out side gear
take out cone
remove enough from small end of cone so it doesn't bottom out. usual suggestion is just enough to remove the chamfer into the splined section so you don't compromise the coverage of axle spline by the cone, you can maybe go a few thou more
put cone in case and check it wedges before bottoming out (windows are supplied for peering in, and letting diff oil in/out...)
put in shim between cone and side gear of the same thickness as what you cut off from the face of the cone thereabouts
build spring pack spider gears and cross shaft into case
you are looking to shim it so that the cross shaft, just sits into its cut-out with the spider gears up against their domed washers, any further and it is loaded all the time and will work too well, and of course wear out again quickly.
do the same for the other side
american sites say this is a bodge... don't do it, never, never, Mr R ehrenberg says its wrong, scummy, rubbish etc
Aussie diffs came from the factory shimmed in just this way, and their diff factory was owned by borgwarner who came up with the design in the first place i Trust the aussies on this one
shim was used depending on variation of tolerance on the case and cones. most had none as the machining materials and tolerances on aussie diffs was great. have had a bout 5 apart and 1 was shimmed the rest were not. still with the paint/locktite splodges on the nuts from the day of assembly.
but only appropriate on seperate cone and side gear centres.
the other type needs the end of the cone cut and then the spider gears each need two concave washers....That's not very good, you have no adjustability, the spider gears all sit too far in and the thing is loaded to the hilt all the time. so i can understand people saying don't rebuild them.
i suppose with a lathe and 2 worn out integral cone/side gear units you could make separate side gear and cone set up if you were really bored and had no other option.
all a moot point if you have a plate diff to go in.....but handy to have a spare
Dave
if it is a separated cone and side gear slip resistant diff it works better for street and track than a clutch diff, seemingly they work in the snow and on sand and everything..... and is indeed rebuildable ONCE
rebuild is eminently possible.
details here
http://www.geocities.ws/luckyducky_9670 ... 0Nov04.pdf
http://mpikas.blogspot.com/2008/03/rebu ... -cone.html
gist of it is
take out side gear
take out cone
remove enough from small end of cone so it doesn't bottom out. usual suggestion is just enough to remove the chamfer into the splined section so you don't compromise the coverage of axle spline by the cone, you can maybe go a few thou more
put cone in case and check it wedges before bottoming out (windows are supplied for peering in, and letting diff oil in/out...)
put in shim between cone and side gear of the same thickness as what you cut off from the face of the cone thereabouts
build spring pack spider gears and cross shaft into case
you are looking to shim it so that the cross shaft, just sits into its cut-out with the spider gears up against their domed washers, any further and it is loaded all the time and will work too well, and of course wear out again quickly.
do the same for the other side
american sites say this is a bodge... don't do it, never, never, Mr R ehrenberg says its wrong, scummy, rubbish etc
Aussie diffs came from the factory shimmed in just this way, and their diff factory was owned by borgwarner who came up with the design in the first place i Trust the aussies on this one
shim was used depending on variation of tolerance on the case and cones. most had none as the machining materials and tolerances on aussie diffs was great. have had a bout 5 apart and 1 was shimmed the rest were not. still with the paint/locktite splodges on the nuts from the day of assembly.
but only appropriate on seperate cone and side gear centres.
the other type needs the end of the cone cut and then the spider gears each need two concave washers....That's not very good, you have no adjustability, the spider gears all sit too far in and the thing is loaded to the hilt all the time. so i can understand people saying don't rebuild them.
i suppose with a lathe and 2 worn out integral cone/side gear units you could make separate side gear and cone set up if you were really bored and had no other option.
all a moot point if you have a plate diff to go in.....but handy to have a spare
Dave