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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 09 9:06 pm
by AllKiller
Im liking this...very trick little car...gonna upset quite a few B/B cars i feel
Just a thought should nt the Pump be lower than the fuel level in the cell to help it out,.. draw + heat build up v gravity ?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 10:46 am
by Jon Connolly
Im liking this...very trick little car...gonna upset quite a few B/B cars i feel
Just a thought should nt the Pump be lower than the fuel level in the cell to help it out,.. draw + heat build up v gravity ?
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I know what you`re saying Allkiller but this set up seems to work. All pumps are self priming so it isn`t an issue if it is above or below the tank. I`m not using a return line to keep weight down. Also I`m using a fuel line cooler and then a fuel regulator just before the carburettor .... the set up worked well all last year.
Having said that pump may not last as long installed this way ?????
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 5:57 pm
by Blue
Because vane type pumps blow better than they suck if you like, it's always better to gravity feed them for maximum flow. I used to have a holley pump that would cavitate because it was higher than the tank, Had to blow down the tank filler to get it to pump fuel

My car must be made of lead 'cos I can't get it anywhere near that weight for some reason.
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 9:28 am
by Jon Connolly
Fitting the new wheels, discs and calipers today and weighed the new ones versus the old ones.
Old wheels + old discs + old calipers = 39.5 kg
New wheels + new discs + new calipers = 23.7 kg
Overall weight saving = 31.6 kg ( 69.5 lbs )
And that`s just one mod.

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 10:46 am
by Kev
My Wilwoods had to go on a drum brake spindle, rather than disc spindles. Perhaps that is the difference?
Loving the build

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 11:13 am
by Jon Connolly
Thanks Kev
These spindles I made from the old disk spindles that were on the car.
Shame you`re not still around ... could have had a bit of head to head Valiant racing.
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 11:15 am
by Ivor
I love reading threads like this...I wonder if the Valiants were lighter than the later Darts to start with...I thought Blue's was about as light as you could get!
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 11:27 am
by Kev
CARL BURGER DODGE wrote:Thanks Kev
These spindles I made from the old disk spindles that were on the car.
Shame you`re not still around ... could have had a bit of head to head Valiant racing.
Hell Yeah! That would have been a gig!

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 12:19 pm
by Cannonball
Ivor wrote:I love reading threads like this...I wonder if the Valiants were lighter than the later Darts to start with...I thought Blue's was about as light as you could get!
wel ivor there is something very odd with it, we took the critical cuda to be weighed yesterday and it came in at a staggering 2,904lbs that is well heavy considering the whole front is glass and the car looks light,
i thoughty it would have been circay 2,600
so we got an honest 820hp,

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 1:07 pm
by Ivor
Well you won't get a lighter driver will you?
820 hp? Now that would go nice in the Valiant!

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 1:26 pm
by Jon Connolly
I just checked my weight ticket in case I had made a mistake and it was definately 1128 Kg before the last bit of weight loss.
1128 kg - 31 Kg ( wheel mods ) - 3 Kg ( boot floor etc ) = 1094 Kg ( 2406 lbs ) MAX. WITHOUT DRIVER.
Plus other weight to come out too
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 09 1:29 pm
by Cannonball
CARL BURGER DODGE wrote:I just checked my weight ticket in case I had made a mistake and it was definately 1128 Kg before the last bit of weight loss.
1128 kg - 31 Kg ( wheel mods ) - 3 Kg ( boot floor etc ) = 1094 Kg ( 2406 lbs ) MAX. WITHOUT DRIVER.
Plus other weight to come out too
yep spot on jon, bris was 1320kg his charger was the same give or take a few kgs
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 09 9:31 am
by Blue
Hmm, after a bit of thinking, I can can see where I have a big chunk of weight. My car was weighed at full street weight, which is what I race at, so that includes full exhaust system, 70lbs of battery and 16 gallons of fuel. That little lot tot's up to 286lb by my calculations

After Pete's episode, using 16 gallons of fuel as ballast isn't the brightest of ideas. Little project for the winter then...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 09 9:37 am
by Ivor
You're gonna drill holes in the gas tank then?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 09 11:17 am
by Cannonball
Blue wrote:Hmm, after a bit of thinking, I can can see where I have a big chunk of weight. My car was weighed at full street weight, which is what I race at, so that includes full exhaust system, 70lbs of battery and 16 gallons of fuel. That little lot tot's up to 286lb by my calculations

After Pete's episode, using 16 gallons of fuel as ballast isn't the brightest of ideas. Little project for the winter then...
blue we never have more than 3 gallon on board,