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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 08 8:22 pm
by mopar_mark
Well, I would buy a new sensor if the Bananarama! answered the poxy phone &
& told me the part Number !
I know its a Bosch WB02 & Part Number is:- 0 - 25 - 007 -???, but don't know the last missing digits

I do know it is a 5 wire sensor
There probably around £100 & I don't mind buying one, as if its not the cause at least I will have a spare.
Well, I removed the existing Lambda tonight & it was completly black, sooted up, so have given it a clean & will try it tomorrow. But will still try & order a new one
Thanks to Ryan for his advice

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 08 8:34 pm
by latil
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 08 8:49 pm
by mopar_mark
Thanks Latil

but need to make sure the connector plug is the same configuration. Maybe I will give them a call tomorrow.
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 08 10:04 pm
by mopar_mark
Bet you didn't know Bosch manf over 11,200 O2 Sensors
I gave up looking after 2,000
Amazon is a good site if your ever in the same predicament, as they provide photos of the sensor & the plugtype
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_auto? ... &x=16&y=24
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 08 10:07 pm
by latil
Another to try
http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/index. ... cd6jdacl47
As you say,depends on the plug. Some of the universal type come only with a pigtail,you then have to make your own arrangements with a soldering iron.
Bets on 0 258 007 057

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 08 11:41 pm
by mopar_mark
latil wrote: Bets on 0 258 007 057

Top man

remind me not to bet against you, but make sure you bet each way
http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/produc ... cts_id/534
Thanks for your help, looks pretty much identical to the one in the link above, with same plug to boot

I have orderd one, lets see what there delivery is like

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 08 8:43 am
by latil

Fingers crossed.
Bosch Part
Number
Vehicle Part number extra info
0 258 007 033 Volvo 2000 C70, 2.3 L & 2.4 L turbo. Bosch USA #17033
0 258 007 036 Volvo 1999 S80 T6 (Front) Bosch USA #17036.
0 258 007 044 Porsche Carrera 911 GT3 part # 996-606-168-01
0 258 006 047 Volvo 1999 S70 2.4T. Volvo part 91 25 547 (possibly the same as Volvo part 94 54 597 used on first generation S80 2.4T and T5).
0 258 007 053,
0 258 007 054 VW 2000 Beetle 1.8 turbo. , Bosch USA #17053.
0 258 007 057,
0 258 007 058 VW1.8T and 2.8L VR6 Golf, Jetta and Turbo Beetle, VW part # 021-906-262-B, (AWW & AFP motors only) Bosch US part # 17014
0 258 006 065 GM Cadillac Catera. GM part number 919-8809. Saturn part number 24450850. Same part as the 0 258 006 066 below, but different cable length
0 258 007 085,
0 258 007 086 VW 2.0 L
0 258 007 090 Audi 2001 - 2003 A4 1.8T (Front) and VW 2001 Passat 1.8T (Front)
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 08 5:55 pm
by Anonymous
R.Runner told me this was Cracklin Rose
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 08 6:07 pm
by mopar_mark
Clivey wrote:R.Runner told me this was Cracklin Rose
How else did you think I got down to JC's
Well cleaned the Lmbda & re installed & no difference

Oh, well I will get there eventually.
On the plus side, went for drive today, only 6 mile round trip, but felt as good as 60 miles.
Caused quite a bit of comotion, what with a the staring, people braking to see what it was.
Didn't go to mad

Feel a bit more inspired & ready for the next batlte with the F/Inj

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 08 8:59 pm
by mopar_mark
Starting to gain more information & getting a better understanding from all the traces I'm doing.
Not seeing any O2 Corrections, AFR is jumping all round the place, so will wait for new Lambda, to see what difference that will make
I have attached a file, too see the info gained from a 30 sec recording. Traces can be viewed as a run/graph on BS3 program or viewed as an excel file. Had to remove a lot of the info due to file size but gives you the idea
Also added a screen dump, to show you how it looks on the BS3
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 08 7:43 pm
by mopar_mark
Eureka !
Finally made a break through..... Bloody MAP sensor/vacuum signal, it's a long story & one I can't be rsed to go through now

but feeling a lot happier.
Like having a different engine, much crisper, A/F ratio on the money around 14:1, hunting has dissapeared, idle slightly high, but stable. Motor responsive to computer changes, etc.
Run out of time tonight, but will work on pulling some timing out & smoothing the timing transition.
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 08 7:44 pm
by Dave-R
I was having bother with a MAP sensor myself the other day.

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 08 8:06 pm
by mopar_mark
Well, what I can say is, that the last few weeks I have been pulling my hair out.
But the good thing is that I have a better understanding on my software & the fault has taught be to delve deeper & forced me to learn. Even though the engine was Not responding to the changes, due to MAP sensor not knowing whats going on & sending garbage signals back to the PC.
My biggest mistake was not using the record function & studying the engine traces.
It was the traces from yesterday, which pointed out that MAP was not changing & caused me to check the sensor/vacuum.
The other good thing, is that now the motors not running rich like a pig like before, should be a bit cheaper to run........ Did £40 of fuel on a 6 mile run & playing in the driveway

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 08 1:04 am
by Anonymous