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- Jon Connolly
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Excellent Bob
Well done, car looks really good, all that hard work has paid off.
When`s it`s first run ???

Well done, car looks really good, all that hard work has paid off.
When`s it`s first run ???

9.844 @ 134.04 ... Smallblock Valiant + NOS
10.169 @ 130.17 ... Smallblock Dodge Ram pick up truck - motor only.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvwC1fd0 ... 8Z96U8t0LQ
10.169 @ 130.17 ... Smallblock Dodge Ram pick up truck - motor only.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvwC1fd0 ... 8Z96U8t0LQ
Thanks Doug, the thing that surprised me was how quickly the engine picks up.
The rockers have given us a last minute problem we removed one of the rocker covers and found 2 of the rocker adjuster nuts and the top of the adjuster laying on the heads.
The rocker gear is Koffel so I called Scott Koffel in Ohio and e mailed him pictures. He confirmed the roller rockers were there early design and if the rocker adjuster snaps below the rocker then there is to much adjuster protruding and you would need longer push rods, they recommend no more than 2/12 threads protruding below the rocker.
In our case the adjuster had snapped level with the top of the rocker and the cause is over tightening of the adjuster.
the adjusters are 3/8 dia at the ball and were a Crane cams item.
The other issue was the tower studs were to long and spacers were needed to tighten the stud nuts and these spacers were not fitted on the original set up.
Scott remembers his father building these combinations back in the 90's and told me they were actually 457 ci and had a compression ratio of between 14 and 15:1 so it is important that the rocker gear is set up spot on due to the massive pressure on the exhaust valve.
He has agreed to send me a complete set of adjusters and hardware so we can set up the top end to the original specs.
A nice touch he put me on to his mother, who is in her 70's, to take my address and payment details.
She was a very nice, septuagenarian who was very lucid and new all about race engine components, I must say a very accessible and helpful family.
The rockers have given us a last minute problem we removed one of the rocker covers and found 2 of the rocker adjuster nuts and the top of the adjuster laying on the heads.
The rocker gear is Koffel so I called Scott Koffel in Ohio and e mailed him pictures. He confirmed the roller rockers were there early design and if the rocker adjuster snaps below the rocker then there is to much adjuster protruding and you would need longer push rods, they recommend no more than 2/12 threads protruding below the rocker.
In our case the adjuster had snapped level with the top of the rocker and the cause is over tightening of the adjuster.
the adjusters are 3/8 dia at the ball and were a Crane cams item.
The other issue was the tower studs were to long and spacers were needed to tighten the stud nuts and these spacers were not fitted on the original set up.
Scott remembers his father building these combinations back in the 90's and told me they were actually 457 ci and had a compression ratio of between 14 and 15:1 so it is important that the rocker gear is set up spot on due to the massive pressure on the exhaust valve.
He has agreed to send me a complete set of adjusters and hardware so we can set up the top end to the original specs.
A nice touch he put me on to his mother, who is in her 70's, to take my address and payment details.
She was a very nice, septuagenarian who was very lucid and new all about race engine components, I must say a very accessible and helpful family.
- Cannonball
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thats mint bob, this baby should really move when your on top off it,Knightcharger wrote:Thanks Doug, the thing that surprised me was how quickly the engine picks up.
The rockers have given us a last minute problem we removed one of the rocker covers and found 2 of the rocker adjuster nuts and the top of the adjuster laying on the heads.
The rocker gear is Koffel so I called Scott Koffel in Ohio and e mailed him pictures. He confirmed the roller rockers were there early design and if the rocker adjuster snaps below the rocker then there is to much adjuster protruding and you would need longer push rods, they recommend no more than 2/12 threads protruding below the rocker.
In our case the adjuster had snapped level with the top of the rocker and the cause is over tightening of the adjuster.
the adjusters are 3/8 dia at the ball and were a Crane cams item.
The other issue was the tower studs were to long and spacers were needed to tighten the stud nuts and these spacers were not fitted on the original set up.
Scott remembers his father building these combinations back in the 90's and told me they were actually 457 ci and had a compression ratio of between 14 and 15:1 so it is important that the rocker gear is set up spot on due to the massive pressure on the exhaust valve.
He has agreed to send me a complete set of adjusters and hardware so we can set up the top end to the original specs.
A nice touch he put me on to his mother, who is in her 70's, to take my address and payment details.
She was a very nice, septuagenarian who was very lucid and new all about race engine components, I must say a very accessible and helpful family.
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WATTS RACING TRANSMISSIONS, CLOBBER THE COMPETITION ITS CLOBBERIN TIME
OFTEN OUTNUMBERED NEVER OUTGUNNED,
HEY WHATS THE TOP END ON THAT SUPERSPORTS. UNLIMITED,
I HAVE A NVQW
LIFE GOES PRETTY FAST, IF YOU DONT LOOK ROUND A WHILE YOU MAY JUST MISS IT,
THE PASS IS THE JUICE,
LOVED BY FEW,
HATED BY MANY
RESPECTED BY ALL
WATTS RACING TRANSMISSIONS, CLOBBER THE COMPETITION ITS CLOBBERIN TIME
OFTEN OUTNUMBERED NEVER OUTGUNNED,
HEY WHATS THE TOP END ON THAT SUPERSPORTS. UNLIMITED,
I HAVE A NVQW
LIFE GOES PRETTY FAST, IF YOU DONT LOOK ROUND A WHILE YOU MAY JUST MISS IT,
THE PASS IS THE JUICE,
LOVED BY FEW,
HATED BY MANY
RESPECTED BY ALL
Thanks Dunc it has been a long build and these niggles are a pain but at least now we will have spannered every nut and bolt on the car and engine so we have a better understanding of the combo.
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It's hard to believe that the steel adjuster gave way, before trying to strip the thread out of the aluminium rockerKnightcharger wrote:In our case the adjuster had snapped level with the top of the rocker and the cause is over tightening of the adjuster
The spacers were on the original setup, although they may of disappeared before you became the owner.Knightcharger wrote:The other issue was the tower studs were to long and spacers were needed to tighten the stud nuts and these spacers were not fitted on the original set up.
They were K1000s fitted on there, I always used to loosen the rocker gear when not using the car, to save the springsKnightcharger wrote: it is important that the rocker gear is set up spot on due to the massive pressure on the exhaust valve.
Glad to see that Scott sorted you out, he's a lot easier to talk to than Dave
- Cannonball
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hey jerryjerry wrote:It's hard to believe that the steel adjuster gave way, before trying to strip the thread out of the aluminium rockerKnightcharger wrote:In our case the adjuster had snapped level with the top of the rocker and the cause is over tightening of the adjuster
The spacers were on the original setup, although they may of disappeared before you became the owner.Knightcharger wrote:The other issue was the tower studs were to long and spacers were needed to tighten the stud nuts and these spacers were not fitted on the original set up.
They were K1000s fitted on there, I always used to loosen the rocker gear when not using the car, to save the springsKnightcharger wrote: it is important that the rocker gear is set up spot on due to the massive pressure on the exhaust valve.
Glad to see that Scott sorted you out, he's a lot easier to talk to than Dave
you know this engine then,
www.dwatts80.fsnet.co.uk
WATTS RACING TRANSMISSIONS, CLOBBER THE COMPETITION ITS CLOBBERIN TIME
OFTEN OUTNUMBERED NEVER OUTGUNNED,
HEY WHATS THE TOP END ON THAT SUPERSPORTS. UNLIMITED,
I HAVE A NVQW
LIFE GOES PRETTY FAST, IF YOU DONT LOOK ROUND A WHILE YOU MAY JUST MISS IT,
THE PASS IS THE JUICE,
LOVED BY FEW,
HATED BY MANY
RESPECTED BY ALL
WATTS RACING TRANSMISSIONS, CLOBBER THE COMPETITION ITS CLOBBERIN TIME
OFTEN OUTNUMBERED NEVER OUTGUNNED,
HEY WHATS THE TOP END ON THAT SUPERSPORTS. UNLIMITED,
I HAVE A NVQW
LIFE GOES PRETTY FAST, IF YOU DONT LOOK ROUND A WHILE YOU MAY JUST MISS IT,
THE PASS IS THE JUICE,
LOVED BY FEW,
HATED BY MANY
RESPECTED BY ALL
Yep Mark I thought the rocker would give first on the other hand they are solid lumps and it may have been progressive, if you inspect the remaining adjusters some have a section about half a turn of thread missing so I assume they are on there way out.
I must say that Scott Koffel and his Mother were very very nice people to deal with and very knowledgeable he told me that after they could not source enough of the thick 400 blocks someone cast some aluminium blocks and used the same combination of an offset ground Hemi crank and chevy rods to create the stroker. this was early days but would love to get my hands on one of them.
With regard to the studs it will be interesting to see what Scott sends and if they fit without having to use spacers.
I will let you know in the next couple of days.

I must say that Scott Koffel and his Mother were very very nice people to deal with and very knowledgeable he told me that after they could not source enough of the thick 400 blocks someone cast some aluminium blocks and used the same combination of an offset ground Hemi crank and chevy rods to create the stroker. this was early days but would love to get my hands on one of them.
With regard to the studs it will be interesting to see what Scott sends and if they fit without having to use spacers.
I will let you know in the next couple of days.

New Rocker hardware arrived from Scott Koffel, Today was a good day, removed plugs reset the lash, re phased the dizzy, adjusted the timing to 34 before and set the MSD up to retard 20 degrees below 800 and bang it fired up and runs sweet.
It is almost time to party in the pits wahoooooooooooooooooooo
It is almost time to party in the pits wahoooooooooooooooooooo
