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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 10 12:32 am
by Anonymous
Well it has been a while since I posted an update on the Bee and as mentioned in previous posts I have had a few setbacks which have delayed the project to the point where the plans to run the car in Pro et have been scrapped for this year.
Following the problem with the rockers when the gearbox was re fitted the dogs were not engaged and the gearbox pump was buggered.
I then ran the engine and basically welded the pump and torque converter together.
It took 30 minutes of dropping the whole gearbox on two pieces of 4 x 2 wood to get the converter to drop out of the box to find the pump bush welded to the torque snout.
that meant a complete strip down of the box, a converter rebuild and another months delay.
To say I was disheartened is an understatement and I must admit to considering junking the project and giving up.
I must thank Blue again for digging me out of a hole and the drive train is now back together.
The last thing to bug me was the alignment of the new purpose built front end, it was giving some serious bump steer and after 2 days of trying to set the castor camber and toe on a set up that has never been done before was proving a real headache.
A good friend mentioned a small garage that could possibly help me and after a couple of calls I trailered the car all the way to the other side of town not 10 Min from my house.
Wayne the operator got stuck in to the job and spent most of a day getting his head around my design and understanding the adjustments available which were basically a rose joint at the end of each A frame some top ball joint shims and the original Chrysler snail cams on the upper wishbone which I had assumed I would not be required and set them to max out position.
The rig he has utilises an attachment on each wheel rim and each attachment reads the others and talks to a computer.
It was a revelation to see the three axis come up on a screen and to see the effect tweaking each component has in real time, it was just fantastic.
To cut a long story short the drop down brackets I fitted to the front of the upper A frame were inducing the bump steer and making it impossible to get a starting point from which Wayne could dial in the front suspention.
So I removed the leveling brackets and all my adjustable rose joints were wound right in and locked off.
The good old Chrysler snail cams did the rest, those boys certainly knew what they were up to, the front cam did the castor and the rear cam set the camber.
Finally had to cut 10 mm off the passenger lower front a frame to induce a bit more castor and she now has 6deg of castor 0.2 degrees of camber and a smidgen of toe in, and almost no bump steer.
In addition raising and lowering the ride height, does not change the settings significantly.
If you want your car set up and want to know for sure it is correct then Wayne is yer man :thumbright:
If I have no more problems you never know the Bee might still make it to the Nats who knows?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 10 5:54 pm
by Blue
Just had a call from Bob at the track, they've gone 10.0 on an easy shakedown pass.....

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 10 6:22 pm
by Stu
:hello1: =D> Well done Bob and all involved! :thumbright:

Been great reading and fair play to you for not throwing the towel in. That 10 for starters must feel REALLY good. 8-)

That set up that your man Wayne has looks brilliant. :read2:

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 10 6:26 pm
by steveo
thats great a ten zero :thumbright:

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 10 7:07 pm
by Derek
Alan just told me it's run a 9.5 @ 129mph with Al Golding driving. also it's running way to rich :thumbright:

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 10 7:26 pm
by NaughtyAlan
Load more to be had as only the second run and with out using the trans brake :thumbright:

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 10 7:29 pm
by Rogue Trooper
Great new can't wait to see your car run 8-)

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 10 8:07 pm
by Jon Connolly
Congratulations

:thumbright:

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 10 10:56 pm
by drewcrane
Wow Bob, bet your glad you stuck with it , mid 9,s awesome,
and yes those old Chrysler engineers knew a bit ,considering what they were building,budget,and time, they work pretty good as far as the suspensions go:read2:

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 10 12:58 am
by Anonymous
Steady on guys!!! It was 10.9, I'll post full details first thing in the morning, but lets say that tomorrows runs will be even better............

:thumbright:

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 10 1:19 am
by Cannonball
Blue wrote:Just had a call from Bob at the track, they've gone 10.0 on an easy shakedown pass.....
get yer no,s right blue you bugger. :shock:

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 10 4:22 am
by drewcrane
marknlindsey wrote:Steady on guys!!! It was 10.9, I'll post full details first thing in the morning, but lets say that tomorrows runs will be even better............

:thumbright:

ooohhh yea that is so much slower lol
no it isnt, that is still fast,faster than stink on poo!

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 10 8:14 am
by Anonymous
Morning guys!! Times are as follows

RT = .79
60 ft = 1.5
1/8 = 108
1//4 = 111
Et = 10.91

Cant remember 1/8 th time.

Arrived at the track and took us a while to get things right for a run down check.

Al Golding will be baselining the car this year and yesterday was just meant runs to check/prove everything. During the run the engine was only revved to 5000rpm (engine will love 8000rpm) and at Al missed 3rd gear so coasted along the later part of the track. It ran really rich over the run, but we've rejetted ready for runs today.

Cheers to brutus for bring us the bits

:thumbright:

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 10 8:34 am
by Cannonball
drewcrane wrote:
marknlindsey wrote:Steady on guys!!! It was 10.9, I'll post full details first thing in the morning, but lets say that tomorrows runs will be even better............

:thumbright:

ooohhh yea that is so much slower lol
no it isnt, that is still fast,faster than stink on poo!
that is that much slower its a million miles slower ask any racer,
but i have no doubt this mtr makes big power i can see it running a 9.2 9.3 when its sorted

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 10 12:31 pm
by Anonymous
Well , drove 70 miles to the Pod last night to drop some jets off , i was also told the BEE ran a 10.08 first run followed by a 9.5 chuffing black smoke..............must of been a ploy to get me up there with the jetting box. :roll:

Lets hope Bob was psycic with those times & it runs the #s today :D