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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 08 12:24 am
by mopar_mark
Pete wrote:Here come the old jokes about ewe turns..........
Your getting confused with the Ram Chargers :D :D

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 08 12:24 am
by mopar_mark
Pete wrote:Here come the old jokes about ewe turns..........
Your getting confused with the Ram Chargers :D :D

:oops: Another double post :oops:

hemi challenger

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 08 9:33 am
by TonyO
Hi, sorry my slip, the Hemicuda I saw in the States was wearing a sport hood with hood pins not a T/A type, belonged to a guy named Bob from Evansville, it was plum crazy and had a column change auto with an E Body bench seat. JC was there at the time also. At my age I can get a little confused. In fact when we were there Pete Webb and myself found a 4 speed factory Hemicuda with a factory fitted 8 3/4 and not a Dana. So thats the Chrysler rule book out the window!

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 08 10:04 am
by Jim
Hmmm, I'd like to see a Hemicuda fender tag without N96 code on it.

hemi challenger

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 08 10:18 am
by TonyO
Jim it did have the N96 code on the tag. The owner told me that during production the factory actually ran out of Shaker Hood Assemblies and therefore added the sport hood. It was then to be either changed by the dealer at a later date or at the owners wishes. I wish I could remember the build date. most likely have pics of the car and tag, however I was not digital in those days, so would need to troll through thousands of pics.
In fact the factory over compensated on its odering and by late 1970 loads more shaker hood cars appeared.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 08 10:33 am
by Jim
I know what the guy says, but I reckon a more likely explanation is early in the life of that Hemicuda someone 'swapped' the shaker to another car.

We both know that there are many 'tales' the Americans have about their cars, but all those years ago these cars were not as venerated as they are now. Nobody bothered about swapping parts, throwing parts away, cutting up Hemi cars to make them lighter for racing, and who knows what else.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 08 10:48 am
by Dave-R
Jim there would HAVE to have been HemiCudas built without the shakers.

They really were not available for a time in 1970 so unless they held up production and refused to sell any until shakers turned up I can't see what they could do?

This is why three Hemi Challengers got T/A hoods from the factory. The rest settled for the standard R/T two scoop sports hood.

However the three Hemi Challengers are actually coded for the T/A hood and not the shaker.
I don't know if any hemis Challengers came out with shaker on the tag but fitted with a normal R/T hood. It would be interesting to find out but how would you be able to tell or prove it?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 08 11:26 am
by Jim
Hi Dave, I know there was a shortage of shakers for a while, but as far as i know that did not affect the Hemicuda's. All Hemicuda's came with a shaker hood. You didn't have to order it, it came as standard. Hemi Challengers didn't come with a shaker as standard anyway, the shaker was an option that had to be ordered.

When Mopar ran short of shakers, the cars that went out with sports hoods didn't have N96 code on the fender tag.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 08 8:49 am
by moopar
Cannonball wrote:original plum crazy car, gone back the states, the original no,s matchin engine is in a hot rod thing here in england, i preffered it how itr looked in the late 70,s to how it looked restoerd, any more pics rrunner was the guy a mate off yours
How did such a desireable car lose it's engine in this country?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 08 9:18 am
by Pete
I believe Richards Plum Crazy car had a factory warrenty motor or block in it.....

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 08 11:46 am
by Cannonball
moopar wrote:
Cannonball wrote:original plum crazy car, gone back the states, the original no,s matchin engine is in a hot rod thing here in england, i preffered it how itr looked in the late 70,s to how it looked restoerd, any more pics rrunner was the guy a mate off yours
How did such a desireable car lose it's engine in this country?
like pete just said , think it must be somethin like this, when the challenger came over here it was raced and used nitrous at some point the engine failed dont know what , but for some reason rather than rebuilding that engine another was sourced likely from the usa a warranty block/engine that must have been left over, so the original m tr got banded about mate to mate sort off deal and ended up with this hot rodder guy, it was even offered back to the guy in the usa to reunite engine/car but he refused and it was not expensive, so it shows these guys might have high $$$$$$ cars but they can still be bloody tight, fools
:D :D :D

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 08 7:31 pm
by Richard
Pete wrote:I believe Richards Plum Crazy car had a factory warrenty motor or block in it.....
The car had a 69 cast date unstamped vin pad in it.

The trans was not the one the car was made with, remember when originally imported it had been converted to auto.

So unless the original 4 speed could be found (unlikely) the car is unlikely to be 'matching numbers'.