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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 13 10:08 am
by Dave999
that be the spirit

if they are not smoking the paint off the drums U R OK


Dave

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 13 12:19 pm
by Steve
Ive put a new flexihose on the rear and no better...still hot. Havent looked at the pushrod adjustment so will have a read up on that.

sorted for this year though...,MOTd, garaged up with just the occassional Winter run and hopefully the faries that break things while its parked up will fix this for me before the spring :D

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 13 1:53 pm
by MilesnMiles
Steve, if the pushrod was over adjusted it would stick all the brakes up. I did that. I know. The smoke is impressive :oops:

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 13 2:01 pm
by Steve
Gotcha Miles....Im stumped now then matey....hopefully they will bed in with use next year :D

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 13 3:15 pm
by Dave999
they just adjusted up too tight

back em off till they stop rubbing

job done

check peddle doesn't go past 1/2 way and you are fine


Dave

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 13 6:35 pm
by Steve
Done all that Dave...nothing binding when up on the stands.....parking brake wound right off....rolls fine with brakes off on hills...creeps in drive easily etc etc....they just get really hot wthen I use her... :read2: w

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 1:10 pm
by Steve
Had a conversation with a friend yesterday about this issue and he imediately said, as Latil did, pushrod adjustment. Im definately going to check this. He reckons it might be causing residual pressure in the system as exactly the same thing happened to his car. Especially considering that both of my rears are gettin equally hot. Will have a look tomw. :thumbright:

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 1:47 pm
by Dave-R
By "pushrod adjustment" I take it you guys are talking about the master cylinder pushrod being too long and so not allowing the MS piston to move completely back?

Or have I got my wires crossed?

This is not adjustable as standard. It is determined by the pushrod length.

The set up is different between power and manual brakes. MP do an adjustable rod which you can then adjust the length of to get your brake pedal height off the floor perfect. Although I had to cut extra threads into mine.

Apologies if I have got my wires crossed and you are talking about something else.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 2:03 pm
by Steve
Thats what Im on about Dave...my book gives a measurement with a very tight tolerance.

I am going to measure mine and compare it to the master cylinder. My mate ran through exactly what to do and says the one on his car is adjustable by a nut on the rod. I dont have this nut as far as I can recall. Was thinking of shimming the MC with washers on the mounting face just to test it to see if it cures the problem before taking more drastic steps :thumbright:

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 2:22 pm
by Dave-R
I may be wrong but as far as I know only the Mopar Performance aftermarket one is adjustable.

Power brake cars have a shorter rod that is on a bell crank lever. Manual brake cars have a longer one connected directly to the brake pedal.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 2:32 pm
by Dave-R
Hang on that's rubbish. The power brake booster connects to the bell crank and there is a little push rod from the booster into the master cylinder.

It's been too long since i did this sort of thing... :roll:

I'll see if I can find a diagram.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 2:38 pm
by Steve
This is the one in my book Dave. I just dont remember it having an adjuster on it when I fitted my new master cylinder....

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 2:39 pm
by Dave-R
Is screw 5-100-62 and adjustment on the power brake?? I don't remember seeing that before. :?

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 2:41 pm
by Steve
It looks like it Dave....that is the nut my mate was on about...

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 13 2:41 pm
by Dave-R
Looks like the same thing on my diagram Steve. I have no memory of seeing that adjustment before.

But then again what else is new. :roll: :lol: