Red rear indicators and mot

Mick70RR · Post by **Mick70RR** » Mon Apr 13, 15 1:29 pm

Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators. Just disable them for the MOT.

Dave999 · Post by **Dave999** » Mon Apr 13, 15 1:34 pm

Bloke in a trailer doing hand signals always works.

he can dress as santa at christmas and hurl out handfuls of sweets at the kids.

Dave

XP29 · Post by **XP29** » Mon Apr 13, 15 10:37 pm

Mick70RR wrote:Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators. Just disable them for the MOT.

It seems living in the south no cars need indicators! And I'm finding out its seemingly ok to turn right at a roundabout from the left hand lane!

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Mon Apr 13, 15 10:40 pm

Mick70RR wrote:Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators.....

Same for Murdercycles, as I have just found out...........

Glen63 · Post by **Glen63** » Tue Apr 14, 15 10:04 am

Back to the original subject, on my 68 Charger I used these lamps on the front without having to modify the side lights or wiring and they work really well.

Also use the same lamps on the rear in the reverse light position, just bought some new lamp holders with dual contacts, added the two extra wires through from the turn signal indicator, disabled the turn feed to the break lights and all works well. So I still have working reverse lights and turn indicators all in one.

When these lamps get feeds to both the white and the amber, they just flash alternately between the two. on indication they just flash amber of course.

The LED are of the new type, so very bright, seems like a nice solution, that involves the least amount of modification from original.

But I have not had the car out in the sunshine yet to see if the rear ones are bright enough, still rebuilding front suspension

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-Yellow- ... 5d50e550ba

XP29 · Post by **XP29** » Tue Apr 14, 15 10:05 am

Mick70RR wrote:Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators. Just disable them for the MOT.

Is this right? I thought you were joking!

latil · Post by **latil** » Tue Apr 14, 15 10:42 am

In many cases vehicles have things fitted that at the time of construction were not a legal requirement. If these things are fitted when vehicle is presented for MoT,they have to work correctly. If they're not fitted.......

Fog lamps is a common one.

Dave81 · Post by **Dave81** » Tue Apr 14, 15 1:18 pm

latil wrote:In many cases vehicles have things fitted that at the time of construction were not a legal requirement. If these things are fitted when vehicle is presented for MoT,they have to work correctly. If they're not fitted....... Fog lamps is a common one.

Seat belts, cat converters and soon to be DPF's are other examples!

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Tue Apr 14, 15 2:44 pm

Glen63 wrote:Back to the original subject, on my 68 Charger I used these lamps on the front without having to modify the side lights or wiring and they work really well.

Also use the same lamps on the rear in the reverse light position, just bought some new lamp holders with dual contacts, added the two extra wires through from the turn signal indicator, disabled the turn feed to the break lights and all works well. So I still have working reverse lights and turn indicators all in one.

When these lamps get feeds to both the white and the amber, they just flash alternately between the two. on indication they just flash amber of course.

The LED are of the new type, so very bright, seems like a nice solution, that involves the least amount of modification from original.

But I have not had the car out in the sunshine yet to see if the rear ones are bright enough, still rebuilding front suspension

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-Yellow- ... 5d50e550ba

Do your indicators still flash ok? There's a thread on DC.com regarding the same thing, it states that the indicator flashing relay had to be changed for a no load flashing module for use with led's, to allow them to flash correctly.
At some point someone has converted mine and moved the sidelights up into the headlights, making my sidelights useless due to the sidelight circuit alone not opening the headlamp covers.
I want to move them back to the original position and switchback led's would solve the problem

Glen63 · Post by **Glen63** » Tue Apr 14, 15 2:51 pm

Yes I changed the flasher unit to one compatible with LED lamps as well.

Changed it to this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELECTRONIC-FLAS ... 1282905870

latil · Post by **latil** » Tue Apr 14, 15 3:50 pm

On the Fury I wired the headlights to open on the sidelight feed as I also moved my sidelights up to the outer lamp units.

SJH · Post by **SJH** » Tue Apr 14, 15 6:29 pm

I used the reversing lights for indicators on my Dart, but the reversing lights are very close together on the Charger ?

edited - 1967 Charger

Shayne

Glen63 · Post by **Glen63** » Tue Apr 14, 15 6:43 pm

Not sure what you mean, on a 68 Charger they are either side just above the stop lights.

PaulR · Post by **PaulR** » Tue Apr 14, 15 7:46 pm

Mick70RR wrote:Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators. Just disable them for the MOT.

1st August 1986 is the date when vehicles first need side repeaters and hazard lights. Any vehicle after 1st January 1936 will need to be fitted with indicators. 1st September1965 is the date when all vehicles need amber indicators front and rear.
Its all here http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s01000401.htm

Mick70RR · Post by **Mick70RR** » Tue Apr 14, 15 9:05 pm

That's not what is says here, unless I am reading it wrong.

http://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_150.htm

If direction indicators are fitted they must meet the requirements of this inspection, but need not be fitted to a machine which:
. cannot exceed 30mph / 50kph, or
. was first used before 1 August 1986, or