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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 15 1:29 pm
by Mick70RR
Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators. Just disable them for the MOT.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 15 1:34 pm
by Dave999
Bloke in a trailer doing hand signals always works.
he can dress as santa at christmas and hurl out handfuls of sweets at the kids.
Dave
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 15 10:37 pm
by XP29
Mick70RR wrote:Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators. Just disable them for the MOT.

It seems living in the south no cars need indicators! And I'm finding out its seemingly ok to turn right at a roundabout from the left hand lane!
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 15 10:40 pm
by Pete
Mick70RR wrote:Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators.....
Same for Murdercycles, as I have just found out...........
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 10:04 am
by Glen63
Back to the original subject, on my 68 Charger I used these lamps on the front without having to modify the side lights or wiring and they work really well.
Also use the same lamps on the rear in the reverse light position, just bought some new lamp holders with dual contacts, added the two extra wires through from the turn signal indicator, disabled the turn feed to the break lights and all works well. So I still have working reverse lights and turn indicators all in one.
When these lamps get feeds to both the white and the amber, they just flash alternately between the two. on indication they just flash amber of course.
The LED are of the new type, so very bright, seems like a nice solution, that involves the least amount of modification from original.
But I have not had the car out in the sunshine yet to see if the rear ones are bright enough, still rebuilding front suspension
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-Yellow- ... 5d50e550ba
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 10:05 am
by XP29
Mick70RR wrote:Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators. Just disable them for the MOT.

Is this right? I thought you were joking!

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 10:42 am
by latil
In many cases vehicles have things fitted that at the time of construction were not a legal requirement. If these things are fitted when vehicle is presented for MoT,they have to work correctly. If they're not fitted.......

Fog lamps is a common one.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 1:18 pm
by Dave81
latil wrote:In many cases vehicles have things fitted that at the time of construction were not a legal requirement. If these things are fitted when vehicle is presented for MoT,they have to work correctly. If they're not fitted.......

Fog lamps is a common one.
Seat belts, cat converters and soon to be DPF's are other examples!

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 2:44 pm
by Rebel
Glen63 wrote:Back to the original subject, on my 68 Charger I used these lamps on the front without having to modify the side lights or wiring and they work really well.
Also use the same lamps on the rear in the reverse light position, just bought some new lamp holders with dual contacts, added the two extra wires through from the turn signal indicator, disabled the turn feed to the break lights and all works well. So I still have working reverse lights and turn indicators all in one.
When these lamps get feeds to both the white and the amber, they just flash alternately between the two. on indication they just flash amber of course.
The LED are of the new type, so very bright, seems like a nice solution, that involves the least amount of modification from original.
But I have not had the car out in the sunshine yet to see if the rear ones are bright enough, still rebuilding front suspension
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-Yellow- ... 5d50e550ba
Do your indicators still flash ok? There's a thread on DC.com regarding the same thing, it states that the indicator flashing relay had to be changed for a no load flashing module for use with led's, to allow them to flash correctly.
At some point someone has converted mine and moved the sidelights up into the headlights, making my sidelights useless due to the sidelight circuit alone not opening the headlamp covers.
I want to move them back to the original position and switchback led's would solve the problem
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 2:51 pm
by Glen63
Yes I changed the flasher unit to one compatible with LED lamps as well.
Changed it to this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELECTRONIC-FLAS ... 1282905870
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 3:50 pm
by latil
On the Fury I wired the headlights to open on the sidelight feed as I also moved my sidelights up to the outer lamp units.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 6:29 pm
by SJH
I used the reversing lights for indicators on my Dart, but the reversing lights are very close together on the Charger ?
edited - 1967 Charger
Shayne
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 6:43 pm
by Glen63
Not sure what you mean, on a 68 Charger they are either side just above the stop lights.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 7:46 pm
by PaulR
Mick70RR wrote:Vehicles first used before 1st August 1986 don't need indicators. Just disable them for the MOT.

1st August 1986 is the date when vehicles first need side repeaters and hazard lights. Any vehicle after 1st January 1936 will need to be fitted with indicators. 1st September1965 is the date when all vehicles need amber indicators front and rear.
Its all here
http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s01000401.htm
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 15 9:05 pm
by Mick70RR
That's not what is says here, unless I am reading it wrong.
http://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_150.htm
If direction indicators are fitted they must meet the requirements of this inspection, but need not be fitted to a machine which:
. cannot exceed 30mph / 50kph, or
. was first used before 1 August 1986, or