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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 07 12:39 pm
by Anonymous
[quote="Clivey"]Ahhh, so the Hemi K wasnt fitted to the car then. The guy had a 6 pot, bought the K with the intention of using it to fit a 440 without realising the differences in K's, and never got round to fitting it.

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Almost correct.

Ok from the start...

The car as is now has a 440 in it...

the car was a S6 with the original k in it

the intention was to fit the Hemi K...

it didnt happen so now I have em.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 07 12:41 pm
by Anonymous
Dave wrote:So how was the 440 fitted to the K-frame? Welded in?
You cannot use the 426 engine mounts on the 440 and you cannot use the 440 mounts on the frame.
I dont have the answer to that but Im sure the guy who owned the primal scream challenger in the uk does as I think he dropped in the 440.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 07 12:48 pm
by Jim
Blimey Blue.... I hate to guess, - someone will come up with the answer i'm sure.

How about: Elephants ears - not mounted to the K frame at all?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 07 3:27 pm
by Pete
They did and mainly for use witha bigger pan. The question is what was the source of the "K" in the first place. The SS recreations use motor plates, but I have seen pictures of period SS cars with no plate, indicating they used motor mounts. Still unclear of their source but I bet they were fom the factory.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 07 3:33 pm
by Anonymous
Well as far as Ive been told the special version brought out and placed in production in the late eighties due to design was quite flakey...

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 07 5:26 pm
by Blue
Yep the originals were on mounts of some sort. They were also fitted with headers, don't know if that free'd up any space to fit some kind of adaptor mount to a standard K frame...

K-members

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 07 12:29 pm
by Anonymous
Hi Folks,

What about K- members on 68 A-bod 440 cars.

Saw one in the States this year and that was really cookie?

Ok was just trying to get this up to 100posts on one subject, especially that could have been answered in one hit!!!!!!!!!!

Two more to go???

Baccy.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 07 3:11 pm
by Jim
Mopar didn't make a 440 A body in 68. Dealers like Mr Norm did some conversions of 383 cars. Some 440 A body Darts and Cuda's were made in 69.

Unlike B bodies, A body cars used a different K frame for big block engines. This is because a B body K frame fits a big block, and also fits a small block with extended mounts. These extended mounts are not used in A bodies, so the K frame has to be different for a big block. I suspect there was also a special K for the Hurst Hemi cars.

K's

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 07 5:12 pm
by Anonymous
Well spotted Jim!!!

I meant 69 440 baccaruda's. Typo?

The left hand motormount bolts in front/above of the Oilpump, this is a special 69 block casting with additional lugs by the waterpump boss. with an extra mount welded on the K-member to clear the steering box.
Trick stuff indeed!!!

We up to a century yet???

Baccy.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 07 5:13 pm
by Blue
The '68 383 A bodies had a unique K, mounts and special super restrictive iron manifolds. The same parts were used the next year to bolt in the 440. There was something different about the way the mounts bolted to the block as well on those cars, think the block had an extra lug cast into it which was drilled and tapped if I remember right.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 07 8:58 am
by Blue
Finally found out what was used to fit the hemi into the A body cars. The factory used blank small block K frames (no mounts yet fitted) and welded on hemi mounts normally used on B body K frames. These were fitted at the factory ready for Hurst to install the engines. The hood of the anorak is slowly being lowered as I type....

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 07 10:14 am
by AllKiller
Blue wrote: The hood of the anorak is slowly being lowered as I type....
:lol: nice one

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 07 11:18 am
by Jim
I reckon you're right about the special mounts for big block A bodies, but i don't think they had a special block casting..

When i first bought the GTS that Skippy now owns (about 12-13 years ago) it had a 383 & 4 speed. The car was an original 340 4 speed, but had been converted using all correct big block mounts, K frame, etc. I am quite sure there was nothing special about the block. (Jeremy Lancaster then owned that car for many years, he put it back to 340 powered and briefly ran it with an auto, then later converted it to the 4 speed it has now.)

I bet those Hemi A body K's are hard to find!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 07 1:25 pm
by Blue
Definitely something different about the original 383 A body blocks, Jimbo! It's mentioned on an engine for sale here,
http://www.bakerautoperformance.com/forsale.html

There's an extra bolt somewhere near the oil pump on those unique mounts, I seem to remember, perhaps you can still get around it without the right block? Can't find anymore info at the moment...