Future Fuel
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 9:30 am
When petrol goes either too expensive or europe bans it now Im talking 15 maybe 20 years from now what would we likely to use as a substitute to run our MOPARS? 
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 9:34 am
Cabbage
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 9:35 am
Any alcohol brewed from vegetable waste.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 9:36 am
On Sundays only surely!??!Lee wrote:Cabbage
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 9:38 am
It wont happen. Trust me.
All these stories about oil n gas running out in the next 30 years etc. its all nonsense. There is plenty of oil, and I mean PLENTY. Why do you think maggie got so het up about the falklands??? And that is just ONE huge reserve out of dozens identified in the last 20-30 years. Problem with the Flaklands fields is that when it was discovered, the tecnology to drill into a surface 3000 feet below the water surface wasnt there. It will be soon.
And as for banning it, there is too much reliance on it, too much revenue in it, and too many high power people being kept in the lap of luxury because of it.
Oil men and Petrochem companies can make or break continents now, they aint gonna release that grip without a fight.
Calm down man.
All these stories about oil n gas running out in the next 30 years etc. its all nonsense. There is plenty of oil, and I mean PLENTY. Why do you think maggie got so het up about the falklands??? And that is just ONE huge reserve out of dozens identified in the last 20-30 years. Problem with the Flaklands fields is that when it was discovered, the tecnology to drill into a surface 3000 feet below the water surface wasnt there. It will be soon.
And as for banning it, there is too much reliance on it, too much revenue in it, and too many high power people being kept in the lap of luxury because of it.
Oil men and Petrochem companies can make or break continents now, they aint gonna release that grip without a fight.
Calm down man.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 10:12 am
Well said Clivey old bean, you have indeed demonstrated fullness of bicep and stoutness of trouser...and saved me posting the same story!Clivey wrote:It wont happen. Trust me.
All these stories about oil n gas running out in the next 30 years etc. its all nonsense. There is plenty of oil, and I mean PLENTY. Why do you think maggie got so het up about the falklands??? And that is just ONE huge reserve out of dozens identified in the last 20-30 years. Problem with the Flaklands fields is that when it was discovered, the tecnology to drill into a surface 3000 feet below the water surface wasn't there. It will be soon.
And as for banning it, there is too much reliance on it, too much revenue in it, and too many high power people being kept in the lap of luxury because of it.
Oil men and Petrochem companies can make or break continents now, they aint gonna release that grip without a fight.
Calm down man.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 10:30 am
Peas from not dissimilar pods methinks
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 10:35 am
Have you two thought about doing commentary ?
Clive'n'Ive Live, perhaps.
Just a thought.
Clive'n'Ive Live, perhaps.
Just a thought.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 10:40 am
Well Sandy, if Ivor n I get invited to have a second bash at the commentary at the Nats next year and provided I know in time, I am going to grow a moustache like his. Really, just to honour him and all the work he has done for supporters of facial hair over the centuries. Truth be told though, I dont think I am capable of cultivating such a fine piece. If thats the case, I wouldnt try for the dshame that failure would bring.
No one mention 118 118
No one mention 118 118
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 11:56 am
Hydrogen!
Fill up with water, burns with no emissions, never ending supply. Sorted
Seriously I am a believer in ICE Hydrogen but like any alternative fuel it has its problems which won't be fully solved until oil becomes too expensive......which might take some time. However it's not just the supply of oil but the environmental pressures which are conspiring against it.
In the medium term I'm with latil - biofuels, either ethanol or methanol, which though currently are mainly produced from food crops, which is a problem, will eventually be viable from organic waste material, or even from algae farms out in the ocean powered by sunlight - lovely!
Fill up with water, burns with no emissions, never ending supply. Sorted
Seriously I am a believer in ICE Hydrogen but like any alternative fuel it has its problems which won't be fully solved until oil becomes too expensive......which might take some time. However it's not just the supply of oil but the environmental pressures which are conspiring against it.
In the medium term I'm with latil - biofuels, either ethanol or methanol, which though currently are mainly produced from food crops, which is a problem, will eventually be viable from organic waste material, or even from algae farms out in the ocean powered by sunlight - lovely!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 1:11 pm
The current Saab,designed for E85 or petrol was developed using fuel brewed from softwood waste,something Sweden has in abundance. Here Police in the West Country have/are testing 44 Ford Focuses running on waste wood alcohol brewed in the UK.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 2:32 pm
Chocolate. The good ole PMT reliever.
If it was up 2 me, I'd send the idea to Timbuktoo.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/nov/15/biodiesel
If it was up 2 me, I'd send the idea to Timbuktoo.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/nov/15/biodiesel
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 9:21 pm
So is it worth laying out 750 bats to LPG me Truk or will that run out too 
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 07 9:56 pm
There's pletty of oil on my bloody drive left by that bloody Transit van