68 charger pitman arm
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 08 11:40 pm
hi dont suppose anyone could help,im after a new pitman arm struggling to find 1,ive got a 68 charger & it power steering 
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 12:12 am
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 6:56 am
I always thought they were a non wear item and didn't benefit from being replaced...unless you have changed stering box types?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 7:45 am
Nope, they wear and its a 10 ton hydraulic puller to get them off 
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 9:03 am
they wear out as inside is a rubber bush
have full details on how to pull one to bits replace rubber parts with metal bush, and make one that never wears out in your own liftime
the rubber used in replacement ones wears out fatser than OEM
the detail is in a text, a selection of photos, and a PDF file of the plans for the bush. although i could post it all it'll take about 7 posts and no point if you don't wanna do it.
can also provide idler arm modification as well
this is an aussie trick that firms up the steering no end. nobody of quality makes ilders and pitmans for RHD cars so they had to be resourceful.
it is much much easier just to get a new one though
anuone wants detail PM me and i'l mail it all
Dave
have full details on how to pull one to bits replace rubber parts with metal bush, and make one that never wears out in your own liftime
the rubber used in replacement ones wears out fatser than OEM
the detail is in a text, a selection of photos, and a PDF file of the plans for the bush. although i could post it all it'll take about 7 posts and no point if you don't wanna do it.
can also provide idler arm modification as well
this is an aussie trick that firms up the steering no end. nobody of quality makes ilders and pitmans for RHD cars so they had to be resourceful.
it is much much easier just to get a new one though
anuone wants detail PM me and i'l mail it all
Dave
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 9:25 am
I thought the Pitman arms just had a ball joint like the track rod ends and the idler arm part that joins on to the drag link?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 9:30 am
The pitman arm goes on the steering box and has the nasty taper splined 10 ton puller fitting and a ball joint. The idler arm goes on the other side of the car and has the crude nylon/rubber bush,also has a ball joint but easier to service as it's held on with one long bolt.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 3:47 pm
pitman has a sealed balljoint type thingy on one end that goes into the steering crossbar and a splined hole with master spline on the other to mount on the steering box sector shaft end
some have a true balljoint some have a balljoint that is actually a taperd shaft smooth headed bolt passing through a hard rubber bush with two anti pull through washers sandwiching it. which is why you often find the threaded end into the steering cross bar seems to project through the castle nut way way too far your rubber sandwich is totally mullered
this is encased in what looks like a standard balljoint shell with a pressed or spot welded backing on it and look just like a track rod end. they wear out. no steering damper on a big mopar so this is a nod in that direction.
GM on the otherhand use a alloy Bush in this position and have a grease nipple into the side of the thing.
idler is just a proper balljoint one end with a rubber bush on a sleave in the end that mounts to the chassis. two options there. roller bearings conversion or a long brass or ally bush hacksawed through one wall with a grease nipple into the body of the idler arm end.
both of these solutions would also involve a bit of strengtheining needed on the idelr arm mount...otherwise it cracks
Dave
some have a true balljoint some have a balljoint that is actually a taperd shaft smooth headed bolt passing through a hard rubber bush with two anti pull through washers sandwiching it. which is why you often find the threaded end into the steering cross bar seems to project through the castle nut way way too far your rubber sandwich is totally mullered
this is encased in what looks like a standard balljoint shell with a pressed or spot welded backing on it and look just like a track rod end. they wear out. no steering damper on a big mopar so this is a nod in that direction.
GM on the otherhand use a alloy Bush in this position and have a grease nipple into the side of the thing.
idler is just a proper balljoint one end with a rubber bush on a sleave in the end that mounts to the chassis. two options there. roller bearings conversion or a long brass or ally bush hacksawed through one wall with a grease nipple into the body of the idler arm end.
both of these solutions would also involve a bit of strengtheining needed on the idelr arm mount...otherwise it cracks
Dave
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 4:29 pm
Learn something every day.
Mind you, by the time I have struggled with it for 2 days to get it off, I am minded to put a new one on.
Very hard to get '70 Challenger ones - has anybody tried to rebuild one of those?
Mind you, by the time I have struggled with it for 2 days to get it off, I am minded to put a new one on.
Very hard to get '70 Challenger ones - has anybody tried to rebuild one of those?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 4:37 pm
getting it off the sector is a right pain
but on top of that with it not being a proper balljoint getting the taper out of the steering cross link when the rubber inside has perished is going to be a destruction or it stays there routine.
can't vouch all will be like this but only in very few cases did the aussies divert from the true Mopar design. and then only because the government insisted on a % of local content
body drivetrain and axle coverd that so the rest could be local or imported and nobody knew. they imported nuts bolts and switches but made their own carbs... weird!
aussie RHD pitman arms (infact everything steering) fit US RHD barracudas and vice verca.
who need rack and pinion when you can fix whats there
Dave
but on top of that with it not being a proper balljoint getting the taper out of the steering cross link when the rubber inside has perished is going to be a destruction or it stays there routine.
can't vouch all will be like this but only in very few cases did the aussies divert from the true Mopar design. and then only because the government insisted on a % of local content
body drivetrain and axle coverd that so the rest could be local or imported and nobody knew. they imported nuts bolts and switches but made their own carbs... weird!
aussie RHD pitman arms (infact everything steering) fit US RHD barracudas and vice verca.
who need rack and pinion when you can fix whats there
Dave
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 5:35 pm
Seems I was lucky I didn't have to change mine! 
Great information though...
Great information though...
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 08 6:42 pm
cant take any credit for anything other than digging it up
if anyone is intersted i'v found the original thread that i downloaded the stuff off
it had been moved so took a bit of tracking down
it is here
but you will need to register
http://www.hemi6pack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11591
saves me having to post it
Dave
if anyone is intersted i'v found the original thread that i downloaded the stuff off
it had been moved so took a bit of tracking down
it is here
but you will need to register
http://www.hemi6pack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11591
saves me having to post it
Dave