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We will remember them

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:19 pm
by Ian Z
To all our service men and women who have kept us free.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:21 pm
by bananaskin
2 minutes silence doesn't seem enough.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:21 pm
by Ian Z
another from today (thnx BBC)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:26 pm
by Pete
Absolutely.

My daughter (Ronnie Socks) is a Corporal in the ACF. She laid the wreath at the local Remembrance ceremony. When you see the last of the servicemen that fought in WW2 (none in our village that survive from WW1), you realise that soon there will be nobody around that actually remembers the terrible events and sacrifices.


I feel that soon people in Britain and other countries will have little understanding and knowledge of the debt owed to these people, and it will be of little consequence to them. It would be very sad if this happens.

I cannot understand why this is not a compulsory subject at school as opposed to something like roman history...

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:26 pm
by MilesnMiles
...and continue to do so.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:27 pm
by Ian Z
and

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:34 pm
by Anonymous
I heard that they want to exhume General Sikorski's body to find out if he died in the crash or was shot.

Witnesses have said that they heard popping from the aircraft as it took off, and officaldom has maintained it was engine problems, backfiring, rather than shooting inside the plane.

I assume the examination of the remains is to try to find out what really happened.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:34 pm
by Ian Z
and

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 10:44 pm
by Ian Z
Sandy, yes. He was buried without full service at Newark, then after war was laid in Wawel castle in the crypt there.

There is a massive story behind this that could potentially seriously unbalance European politics. He was forewarned that he would be assassinated, as it came at the time that the Polish government in London had been accused by Stalin of stirring trouble over their accusations of a massacre of Polish POWs in Soviet hands (they coulndt be POWs because both Soviets and Poles were on allies side, but they were regarded as a threat directly to Soviets!) - est. 20,000 found with bullets in head at Katyn. Churchills government was under pressure to keep Stalin sweet..........Stalin didnt give one about anyone.

At the V day celebrations in London, the surviving Polish soldiers on British soil were not invited to attend, also to please Stalin. Its a shame really, as Britain entered the war precisely to save Polands sovereignty.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 11:05 pm
by Jeff
We had a real Dambuster in Royston.... He often came to see us at our old house! He was a very nice man, gone now, but not forgotten!

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 11:08 pm
by Anonymous
For any one who missed a Poppy rattle can and wants to give some money to the Royal British Legion, you can donate on their site

http://www.poppy.org.uk/


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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 08 11:17 pm
by Anonymous
Hmm, still an awful lot of Polish names in Scotland, especially Fife where many of them were based and then stayed on after the war.

Polish RAF squadrons, Polish manned Royal Navy ships, the Poles at Monte Casino, the Polish paratroopers at Arnhem, the Polish Armoured Division in Normandy ?

I must check my old magazines. I used to have the 'After the Battle' one that had the story about Sikorski and the crash.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 08 12:01 pm
by Anonymous
its amazing how many people DONT do the two min silence i was in the bank at the time and just before the manager came out and anounced they will be observing it and although not close it they wouldent be serving. people started moaning and saying they didnt have time DIDNT HAVE BLOODY TIME those brave people risked and gave their lives so we could have freedom etc and you cant give two mins of your bloody time once a year to rememeber and give thanks to them

god i wanted to slap em

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 08 12:17 pm
by Trigger_Andy
We dont know we're living, and thats the truth! It's sad that a lot of our younger generation dont only know much about the war's but also dont really care to be honest. This is reflected (imho) by the way the yoof act today.

My Great Grandfather served in both War's. I used to love hearing his stories, he was a tough old bugger for sure! He was a Sniper in one of the war's and also served in reconesence, had more lives than a Cat.

Here's to you Pampa!:salute: I wish I knew you as a man and not the Boy I was.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 08 12:38 pm
by Charger
:iagree: my Grandad served in WW1, he was a horseman, drove ammunition, supplies etc. to the front, he was at Somme and Ypres, survived, lived a full life, top bloke, died in ‘85

my Great Uncle, who only died a couple of months ago, served in WW2, bomber command, middle gunner in Lancasters, flew 35 missions, the average for Lancasters was only 21

here’s to you all, many many thanks :salute: