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Non Mopar camber issue

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 4:05 pm
by Anonymous
Hi all, has anyone here had much experience with Triumph Herald front suspension? I have a bit of a camber issue with the front of my Lotus Eclat (uses Herald suspension on front). I have replaced the lower trunion and bushes as these were knackered, which made no difference to the camber. I can't see anything bent and all the bushes seem to be fine as is the top ball joint. I have noticed today that the shock/spring top mount is buggered but I can't see how that would have nuch effect on the camber on this suspension ser up. Any hints or advise other than bin it, burn it or Bananarama! would be much appreciated ;) .

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 4:37 pm
by Dave-R
There will be a way of adjusting it. What kind of front suspension is it? Is the camber negative or positive?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 4:42 pm
by TrevD
if my memory serves me right (at my age it dosnt always) the herrald had shims (i think) on the A arms to adjust this but if its suddenly gone wrong i would look further at it to see if something has bent or broken, camber dosnt just change without a reason.

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 5:14 pm
by Anonymous
The front set-up is like this
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It had the camber issue when I bought the car along with a few other issues but I expected this to be down the the knackered trunion.
I have a horrible feeling the Chassis is bent. :(

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 6:23 pm
by TrevD
between the inner mount for the lower arm and the chassis you should find some spacers, if its the chassis out of alignment get it put on a propwr jig and sorted out otherwise you will be running round in circles trying to get it all correct.

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 6:45 pm
by Dave-R
Are both sides the same? Is the top of the wheel leaning in or out?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 8:50 pm
by Anonymous
TrevD wrote:between the inner mount for the lower arm and the chassis you should find some spacers, if its the chassis out of alignment get it put on a propwr jig and sorted out otherwise you will be running round in circles trying to get it all correct.
I'll have a look next weekend and see what spacer's are there or not. If the Chassis is bent I will probably replace it with a galvanised one. Will cost about the same and make more sense.
Dave wrote:Are both sides the same? Is the top of the wheel leaning in or out?
The passenger front wheel is upright as you would expect it to be and the drivers front leans in quite a bit at the top. its enough for you to notice it without looking for it. If anything I'd say it is out at the bottom.
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 9:07 pm
by Rich
Your headlight vacuum canisters leaking too then???Ive got one of those in the yard at work,when your driving they go down fine but when you stop they slowly appear one by one.
Horrible car in general IMHO,this one may well be up for grabs as a parts car soon.. :thumbright:

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 9:14 pm
by Anonymous
This is turning out to be a pain in the ass! I have re-wired mmost of the car and fitted a new fuse box to a different location, replaced most of the suspension bushes, and now I'm waiting on a new top mount for the O/S/F and a new tensioner pulley for the timing belt. I havn't even driven the thing yet and I keep finding things wrong with it! I think I will use it for a bit and ebay it. And yes the vacume canister is ruined too, one of many std problems for these. :roll:

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 10:21 pm
by Roger
Heralds do indeed have shims to adjust camber.

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 10:35 pm
by Anonymous
Good! WIth a bit of luck someone has over shimmed it. [-o<

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 09 11:26 pm
by Rich
I have noticed when driving our one,that when you turn sharply it feels like something is drastically wrong on the front end,feels like the tracking is miles out.You fight the thing round corners. :shock:
Maybe I have the same problem.. :?

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 09 12:47 am
by J Clark
Lotus / Colin Chapman, never did believe in Ackerman geometry! ;)