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Weird ticking noise
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 09 9:06 pm
by Minty
Have a problem that came to light this weekend,when turning right iam getting a ticking sound coming from the rear,dont do it on left turns,if wheel bearings is it a major job,do i need to take the axle out to get the shalf out,never done rear wheel bearings before so any advice welcome

Diff is micky mouse aussie open diff
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 09 9:08 pm
by Stu
IT's A BOMB!!!!
(Sorry... I'm not helping much, am I?

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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 09 9:22 pm
by Minty
no your not stu

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 09 9:31 pm
by db
Have you checked for daft things like:
A stone stuck in the tyre tread, summat like a stick caught in the wheelarch, wheelnuts all tight?
A wheel bearing would be more of a rumbling noise in my experience.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 09 10:04 am
by Dave999
brake shoes chattering. one of the retainer springs or cups come off?? pinging about??
or is it the centre??? how much play do you have? try twisting prop with wheels on ground
try twist back and forth with 1 wheel up
any clunky?
centres can be had from numerouse sources
they make all but side gears.
sure its the back?
my front brake pads dic dica dica all the time due to no metal sliver behind them. i.e between them and piston. i need to put some copper slip in there
bearings process is same as all mopars
this is from memory of reading the book when i failed the MOT on axle seal ooze all over me brakes. errors are by accident. can photo copy pages if you need em
off with brakes
off with backing plate
off with bearing retainer
pull axle
chop the metal sleeve off (sensitive tickle with a small cutting disk then ding it with a chisel at an angle that Bananarama! the axle with the tip)
take off bearing
seal and retainer
make sure its clean and burr free
put back retainer
put in seal
put on bearing
drive it up snug without knackering it
drive the new lock collar up without knakering it (GAZ stove and boiling water job, big gloves length of scaffold to drive it down etc)
get the shaft back engaged in the Centre (this part is supposed to be great fun)
then do the haynes job
i.e do the rest in reverse
i gave up
i was only doing it for the seal
i just undid everything and slapped a bit of silicone in to stop me leak
never got as far as pulling it all out. worked for approx 2 days.
i just clean me brakes and wheel now. (naughty)
the seals are an embarrassment to the word seal
you can get green bearings now from OZ not sure if you delete seal or any spacers as per 8 3/4
cheaper just to take yours to a UK supplier and ask
the MOT was mine
Dave
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 09 10:12 am
by JohnR
Bring it to my place Dave I will do them for you if you have the bits
Terry if you want to do the bearings / seals let me know hows your kick down ???????
Re: Weird ticking noise
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 09 10:32 am
by Dave999
Minty wrote:
Diff is micky mouse aussie open diff
get an LSD centre (once LSDed they over achive rather than under)
camaro firebird centre 82-92 (good enough for chevy v8 still not good enough for a 440

but alright for a 318)
pull it to bits put to 1 side the 28 or 34 spline side gears and cones
replace side gears with open centre side gears with the back machined flat
buy new cones from oz.
shim it. same design as the US mopar cone diffs but with 7 3/4 ring gear
Borg warner designed em for both companies
stick it in
2 wheel peel rather than 1.
you know me..... all plans little action.....all well researched just not done it
Dave
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 09 10:35 am
by Dave999
JohnR wrote:Bring it to my place Dave I will do them for you if you have the bits
Terry if you want to do the bearings / seals let me know hows your kick down ???????
John
was saving that favour for the plan above
set a date in 2012
Dave
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 09 6:36 pm
by Minty
Dave ,its coming from nearside rear ,going in the garage this evening,gunna check brakes,oil leaks etc,lifted rear last night and there was minor movement side to side so somethinks up,Got b bod 489 case in garage,1/4 inch difference in width to borgy .just cant afford all the inside bits at the mo. john,extended throttle lever with the mig,what a difference,kickdown in all gears,sweet!!
Might call on you if it is wheel bearings,you can talk me through it as iam liable to balls it up

,off to garage.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 09 8:07 pm
by Minty
Right,Wheels off ,no leaks,brakes ok,nothing loose,should shalfs move in and out(no crude comments ) getting a bit of play ,spinning wheels you can hear bearings rumbling but not what i would call loud,not ticking sound i am hearing

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 09 8:12 pm
by Dave999
loose wheel nut?
do your wheels centre on the hub centre?
loose balance weight?
oddddddd
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 09 8:39 pm
by latil
Double check all tyres for embeded stones or worse. Sometimes a failing UJ needle bearing will click under light loads.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 09 9:12 am
by db
Minty wrote:should shalfs move in and out(no crude comments ) getting a bit of play
NO
Check 5 retaining nuts on brake backing plate are tight- these hold the axle shafts in too.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 09 9:33 am
by Dave-R
db wrote:Minty wrote:should shalfs move in and out(no crude comments ) getting a bit of play
NO
Err.
Yes. But only about 8-10 thou. There will be an adjuster on one shaft.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 09 10:05 am
by Blue
A broken planet gear in the diff will make a clicking noise when cornering, check that out once you have ruled out everything else.