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318 points gap/timing

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 9:44 pm
by sidewaysjas
Hi all
I am trying to get my Charger to run a bit better and wondered if one of you helpful guys could tell me what the points gap and timing advance are on a '69 318. I know I should buy a service manual but need to see another pay day first.

Thanks

sidewaysjas. :( :(

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 10:12 pm
by latil
Points .014"-.019" Timed at TDC+or-2 1/2 deg at idle Dwell angle 30 to 34 deg

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 10:15 pm
by Alex
TDC :shock: set the timing around 34 deg all in (at around 3000 rpm) with the vac pipe disconnected and plugged, this should give around 10-12 deg at idle.

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 10:27 pm
by latil
From 1970 factory manual :?

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 10:40 pm
by Alex
Emissions settings, go slow settings LOL, you are factually correct but somewhat retarded :shock: (timing wise)

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 10:48 pm
by Dave-R
I am finding you want at least 12 degrees at idle. More with bigger cams. But you must limit the mechanical advance to 35 degrees max.

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 10:50 pm
by Dave-R
And for chists sake dump the contact points and get an electronic dizzy. You don't rub sticks together to light a fire do you?

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 10:54 pm
by Kev
You don't rub sticks together to light a fire do you?
Very good, Dave :D

Posted: Mon May 09, 05 11:01 pm
by Alex
I still use flints............... :shock:

Posted: Tue May 10, 05 8:59 am
by Dave-R
Have you seen these MSD "ready to run" distributors?

http://www.msdignition.com/dist_29.htm

They have everything built in. No need for a transistor on the bulkhead and extra wiring harness. Just connect it to the coil and away you go. 8)

You can easily customise the advance curve and the amount of advance. The weight springs are just under the cap.

Posted: Tue May 10, 05 10:24 am
by Anonymous
If you're looking for a complete electronic conversion I can do the whole kit for approx ?257

which includes
Stage 1 or Stage 2 distibutor (depending on the motor) custom curved to your application with no messing around with weights or anything else.

A688 electronic ignition kit, inc ECU, Coil, Ballast Resistor, Cap & Rotor

Electronic conversion wiring harness.

Electronic Voltage regulator.

This kit will be ready to run

Posted: Tue May 10, 05 11:19 am
by Dave-R
Just to point out. You don't need a new voltage regulator for electronic ignition. That is just for the charging system.

Wil's regulator is great if you have the pre 1970(?) type mechanical regulator though. I saw the one Trev mounted on his Charger and it looked just like the original.

Posted: Tue May 10, 05 12:13 pm
by Anonymous
Dave

You cannot use a mechanical regulator with electronic ignition, they just don't keep the voltage accurate enough, any spikes and you're risking the ecu.

Our kit has a 2 year warranty on the coil and ecu but only if there is a electronic regulator fitted, if it's mechanical there's no warranty on anything.

I'd prefer to sell a reg with every ignition kit

points/timing

Posted: Wed May 11, 05 7:28 pm
by sidewaysjas
Thanks for your help guys. Yes I will go to electronic ignition but the car has only recently come over and at present I am just doing enough to get MOT'd and registered.