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Top wishbones

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 13 9:44 pm
by Drag Addict
Probably a daft question, answered dozens of times in the past, but are E body challenger top wishbones interchangeable with A body dart ones? Ball joints the same taper???

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 13 10:00 pm
by Dave-R
No.

E-Body are the same as 68-70 B-body. Different length control arms to the A-body ones.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 13 10:11 pm
by Pete
... and "A" Body Top arms come in 2 different sizes as well; known (unsurprisingly) as "Large" or "Small". Small Ball Joints are getting harder to get hold of these days, and tis is reflected in the price.

By rights, you car "should" have "Small" but could have been changed out at some point.........

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 13 10:29 pm
by Drag Addict
Thanks guys - wish you'd given me better news! Are new wishbones available via pattern production - mine are knackered!!

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 13 10:50 pm
by Pete
Sounds like you could be heading for the new Heim-type adjustables unless members like Jon Conolly or Mick Deakin who specialise in "A" Bodies have any spare parts.

May be worth a "Wanted" advert.

I can also ask my mate who has a "Large" set up availble but these have 10" Drums.....

You CAN change the Control Arms out for "Large" type ones, but you will have to change out the Lower Control Arms and knuckles as well.

Slippery slope time again, I'm afraid.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 13 11:12 pm
by Cannonball
I THINK I HAVE A PAIR OF UPPER WISHBONES A BODY DART

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 13 7:33 am
by Guy
I am taking my small ball joint A arms off of my Dart in the next couple of weeks when I fit my new adjustable ones, just got to get the hubs machined to fit the larger ball joints.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 13 6:50 pm
by Drag Addict
I think this may get expensive - but it's got to be done!!

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 13 5:37 pm
by Drag Addict
Think I've been leading everyone including myself, up the garden path!! Finished work early yesterday, so started work on the car. The top wishbones in the box marked "challenger" are identical to the ones on the car, albeit I haven't split the top balljoint to check the taper size. Also in the same box are a pair of 11" vented discs and 4-pot KH calipers, and small bolt pattern hubs. Am I right in thinking this lot is off something like a later Dart or Duster, and I don't posess any challenger front brakes???

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 13 5:42 pm
by Pete
4 pot K-H's never made it onto a Challenger.
you need to do a full inventory, including what's on the car ;)

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 13 7:14 pm
by Dave-R
The 4-pot calipers were a 60s thing.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 13 7:41 pm
by Drag Addict
At the moment the car has the 9" drums. but I'll know more by sunday tea time! Another daft question, the KH calipers look like they might be beyond rebuild - will any other calipers fit?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 13 11:42 pm
by Pete
If you have 9" drums then they are the small joint set up.

4 Pots will probably end up in the bin in terms of not being cost effective to repair.............

It's OK to cry a little...............

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 13 9:24 pm
by Drag Addict
Stripped one side out today before an onslaught of kids and grandkids - I've got big balljoints, so all the kit that came with the car looks like it will fit. Last job remaining for tomorrow is to take out the wishbone - I'va allocated an hour with spanners, then the angle grinder and cutting disc will be released! need to get the wishbone off anyway to repair the big hole in the chassis rail behind it.
Feel a lot more positive now I'm on the case!!

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 13 11:42 am
by Dave999
land crusier calipers fit with a bit of a fiddle, cast iron sumitomo caliper

have a search on here for landcruiser hilux etc in the message section with Dave999 as the poster

3.5 inch mounting centres

depends on rotor size on car and which landcruiser/hilux you get for a true bolt on

calipers for non vented disks need to be ground out slightly
those from a vented disk toyota do not

should fit with 14 inch wheels

and the calipers are designed for metric rotors so something measured in inches from a mopar will allways be about 3 mm too big in the diameter. if you know a man with a lathe that can be sorted out.

http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic ... ight=hilux

ebay second hand for 40-60 a pair

other calipers with 3.5 inch mounting

austin princess
jag 4 pot 15 inch wheels only
many wilwood.

you can also fit mopar single pot girlock sliding caliper

2 types
first is like those on 66 mustang and VG VH aussie mopars and uses slider pins and bushes to mount a cliper on a big iron bracket

second is a later version of the same thing used on 73- aussie mopars
caliper fits into end of bracket rather than on pins. this is the better version but was aussie only

fitmnet is a function of the iron slider bracket its positions the caliper both radially and inboard/outboard to get it to fit the disk. i.e a set of a mustang will have a mustang sized iron bracket

still 3.5 inch mounting centres mind


Dave