Mopar Muscle Association UK

Does anyone know the sizes of green bearings available for rear axles.
Ie out side dia and inside dia.
Thanks

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a second click will take you to page 2

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a third click will take you to dana axle info page

http://www2.dana.com/expertforms/depdf.aspx?prod=AXL

and a forth click will give you the info you need as said

autofetish wrote:1 click will take you to LOOK HERE FIRST

http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

a second click will take you to page 2

http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic ... c&start=15

a third click will take you to dana axle info page

http://www2.dana.com/expertforms/depdf.aspx?prod=AXL

and a forth click will give you the info you need as said

Unfortunately none of this information tells me anything to do with my original question. unless I'm missing something here

What sizes of non adjustable "green" bearings are available.

firstly what axle ?

when you say non adjustable what do you mean ? a non tapper bearing ?

or a bearing tha
t is non adjustable to your size ?

below is a link to most mopar bearing


http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/rearaxbearki.html

i take it this is for that dana 44 you have in which case as dave999 say you might find your local dealer has them as the dana 44 has not changed in many years


also a link to a bearing company near me that do bearing in every shape and size


http://www.bml-hayley.co.uk/bearings.htm

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=dana+44+axle+bearings

http://www.ratechmfg.com/dana.htm

autofetish wrote:firstly what axle ?

when you say non adjustable what do you mean ? a non tapper bearing ?

or a bearing tha
t is non adjustable to your size ?

below is a link to most mopar bearing


http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/rearaxbearki.html

i take it this is for that dana 44 you have in which case as dave999 say you might find your local dealer has them as the dana 44 has not changed in many years


also a link to a bearing company near me that do bearing in every shape and size


http://www.bml-hayley.co.uk/bearings.htm

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=dana+44+axle+bearings

http://www.ratechmfg.com/dana.htm

The Dana 44HD axle that I am using, has taper roller bearings, on the shadts. The shafts are not held in with c clips at the diff end.
They are shimmed for preload behind the bearing, which is a faf to set up.
I would like to use a non adjustable pre load bearing , like the Green ones , that just press on , and don't need any adjustment , I guess they are balls in races.

Getting standard replacement bearings is not a problem, I can get them.

I am thinking, I can use the green bearings, with maybe some machining of the case or shaft to fit them.

I know the sizes of the tapered bearings that are fitted at present, I just want to know the sizes of the available Green bearings, so I can compare, and see if any size is close to what I need.

Do you see where I going with this ?

Sounds like a lot of hard work and money for a 44
Or am I missing a trick here

From what I understand green bearing is just a make ( might be wrong)

Yes everyone is using them but why limit yourself to one bearing manufacture

I don't think anyone part from a green bearing sales men will know every size they come it

BML bearing post at top do every size you can imagen

I just brought a set for my drag bike really good and cheap

Keep us updated as to what you do with this axle is it very interesting

many of the dana axles and all of the spicer axles and all of the borgwarneer axles, where the centre comes out the back use only shims for all clearances and pre load settings, so they are a tad more akward to set up than an 8 3/4

pinion preload is the usual crush sleave or sleave eliminator, select spacer and shims. build it loose and approach the correct setting by testing with inch/lb toque wrench. build it too tight and you smash the head and tail bearings before you start.

centre- ringear/pinion preload and pattern involves finding zero side to side movemnet and best pattern. then spreading the axle case to apply +x thou shim on the ring gear side and - x thou shim on the other side based on a table of details.
out of the factory many came with just 2 (one use only) spacers of exact size so dismantling doesn't give you a full set of shims to start again with. they were made available only for rebuild.

also pressing on the axle bearings so that the axles have a slight movemnet that loads the bearing appropriatly but doesn't hold it out of its cup due to the two shafts mashing into the positove stop in the middle of the centre.

frankly you'd be fine by pressing on the bearings up to the flange and using the original shim if fitted. to make sure the flange is the same distance from the housing end as it was before


Green beraings i.e ball bearings made by the green ball bearing company that come in a box with a press on retainer ring for use on a none C clip axle...

have a hunt for the Green ballbearing company catalogue. find the bearing and just get the quivelent from UK supplier of SKF torrington koyo etc.

in therory you shoud be able to get ball bearings in the same Inside outside diameter and width.
obvoulsy the outside dimeter needs to be that of the cup, of the cone bearing you are replaceing.

and may not need to leave space for the seal. UNIT bearings i.e the tapered roller come with seal and Rib Ring attached. that seal takes space, which coukld be taken up by a wider ballbearing which can have its seal in either metal or neoprene installed into the bearing outer (like those used on the crank shafts of 2 strokes)

you'd then just need the pressf it lock ring/retainer to hold it onto the shaft.

if you are planning to get axles made have a chat with the tech guy at strange.

he's very good and if you buy axles, and tell him the type of axle retainer, he will build the axles, research the best bearing for your plans, build the axle to fit that bearing, put on a new alxe bearing retainer plate for you, press on the bearing, and its retaining ring.

he wouldn't make me any axles for mine becasue he said unelss i went to a new housing end he wouldn't want to build an axle so thin at the wheel bearing, mine is a small axle not used for racing anywhere, and he didn't want a guinea pig for a new shaft so far away. "this i resepct"
All axles must be 1.563 or bigger at the bearing for strange to make them. but i had a couple of days dialogue with extenisve email information passing back and forth...they really tried hard to come up with a soloution for me.


Mike Renkosiak

he's a very very nice man, just a shame i couldn't make a purchase.

moser on the other hand do street axles and race axles in any thickness you care to mention and have an alloy appropriate to both hence happy to make an axle shaft for me.

but their tech guy was a little bit "1 word answer" and basically said yes and no enough times to complete a sale.
He was probably just busy and i am compareing him with the guys at strange who were excellent in every way. interested in new product interested in my safety and easy to deal with.

Dave

i allways check out my bearings at www.simplybearings.co.uk

i never buy anything from them becasue they are expensive but their website has its uses

Dave