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Ethanol in Petrol Survey

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 18 4:40 pm
by TyreFryer
I came across this on one of the vintage bike forums I follow, thought it would be of interest to our members.


Just received this from FBHVC.
Important we respond to DOT Consultation before it is too late (second link down).
Interesting they are proposing E10 at a time when the EU are proposing halving the ethanol production from bio crops, due to increasing food prices and world deforestation in order to try to grow more food crops. Germany actually showed a fall in E10 last year!

Dear Enthusiast,
The Department of Transport has issued a consultation document on the subject of introducing higher levels of ethanol in petrol.

Many older vehicles are likely to suffer damage and possibly dangerous fuel leaks if the E10 grade of petrol is used without modification to their fuel systems.

For the purposes of this consultation the Government is focussing on vehicles more than 25 years old.

Whilst wishing to introduce the higher ethanol level E10 grade of fuel, the Government are guaranteeing a 'protection grade' of petrol at the E5 grade that is equivalent to the currently available 95 RON petrol. However this guarantee will only last until 2020 when further consultation will take place.

It is likely that on the introduction of E10 at the 95 RON level, the currently available 'Super' grades with an octane level of 97 RON or higher, will cease to be available.

The Federation has designed a survey on petrol useage in older vehicles which will provide valuable evidence in the consultation response.

Please complete the survey and help the Federation preserve our right to use 'Yesterday's Vehicles on Tomorrow's Roads'.

The survey can be accessed by clicking this link. https://paulc1.typeform.com/to/Bt7HKS
If you wish to read the consultation document it can be found by following this link Department for Transport consultation.
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... -labelling

Please encourage your friends and fellow enthusiasts to complete the survey, just forward this email and they will be able to follow the survey link. The survey will close on 31 August 2018 in order to collate the results for the Federation's response to the consultation. A copy of the response will be made available on the Federation's website.

Thank you for supporting the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs and helping to keep historic vehicles on the road.

Paul Chasney
Director - Research

Re: Ethanol in Petrol Survey

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 18 11:51 pm
by mopar_mark
Interesting, thanks for sharing

Re: Ethanol in Petrol Survey

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 18 11:04 am
by moopar
A guy i know at MaClaren's who's job was to test fuel for road cars , told me not only is there good and bad fuels but they don't even have the same ingrediants SHELL V power best of all and most mpg , seems to work never supermarket fuel

Re: Ethanol in Petrol Survey

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 18 2:07 pm
by Dave999
I heard that V-power has its octane boosted over standard 95RON by an additive package that contains ethanol
BP super is supposed to be refined to 97 RON

however as they all have to comply with the same standard and it all comes out of the same refineries i'm not so sure it makes much of a difference
its all just not quite as good as it used to be

filled in the survey

Dave

Re: Ethanol in Petrol Survey

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 18 9:10 pm
by Mick70RR
Dave999 wrote: Tue Aug 21, 18 2:07 pm I heard that V-power has its octane boosted over standard 95RON by an additive package that contains ethanol
BP super is supposed to be refined to 97 RON

however as they all have to comply with the same standard and it all comes out of the same refineries i'm not so sure it makes much of a difference
its all just not quite as good as it used to be

filled in the survey

Dave
That's right Dave, I tested V Power and it's 5% ethanol.
I also tested BP Ultimate and is ethanol free.

Re: Ethanol in Petrol Survey

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 18 2:47 am
by Mark B
In the States E10 is standard. Premium is 93 Ron. I hear they’re trying to introduce E15 too.