Mopar Muscle Association UK

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 06 7:39 pm**

hi, how much hp would a good chassis take before it need`s beefing up, is there a common figure? the cars a charger 500,

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 06 7:47 pm**

Welcome to the forum !

As for the torque boxes, I am not sure sorry, I would be more worried about fitting frame connectors first

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 06 8:22 pm**

Welcome to the forum

Ditto that on the frame connectors, they can help a great deal. There's alot of info on this on the old messageboard (check the 'Start here first'), and if you have (I guestimate) 400 horses or so already chances are they would help (though they also add weight!).

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 06 8:47 am**

More important is to use chassis connectors if you use slicks.

Personally I would fit torque boxes at the very least on a completely stock car. Actually I would probably fit chassis connectors too.

Because the stiffer the chassis - the better the car feels to drive and the fewer rattles it has. No matter what the power level.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 06 7:06 pm**

just out of interest what's a torque box

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 06 7:41 pm**

They were extra bits of plating added to each end of the sills "boxing" the area where the subframe attaches. Most hemi cars and convertibles got them as standard. So did a lot (if not all?) 440 cars.

Very good article here;
http://www.autorust.com/m_torq.pdf

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 06 8:07 pm**

Nice article link, Dave.Very persuasive!

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 06 9:11 pm**

Hi guy`s, thanks for the welcome, a great article about the boxes and connectors, it had it all, i`ve seen some bolt in connectors, anybody had dealings with these? or anybody had them fitted already? thanks again

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 06 9:15 pm**

thanks for info dave
really good article

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 06 10:02 pm**

Rogue Trooper wrote: i`ve seen some bolt in connectors, anybody had dealings with these?

No no no no no no no no no!!!

Steer well clear.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 06 10:58 pm**

Dave wrote:
Rogue Trooper wrote: i`ve seen some bolt in connectors, anybody had dealings with these?
No no no no no no no no no!!!

Steer well clear.

Weld 'em in!!
I welded mine from front to rear x-members, but stronger still is welding them through the floor too.
This just got a lot easier - John Passman (sp?) now makes contoured frame connectors http://www.uscartool.com/Eframeconn/index.html, which make welding them in along their entire length much easier as you don't have to cut up the floorpan anymore

Posted: **Tue Feb 14, 06 7:19 am**

Now they look nice

Posted: **Tue Feb 14, 06 8:35 am**

Or you can use the normal frame connectors and just weld in a couple of spacers between the connector and the floor. I shall be doing this little addition in the near future.

Posted: **Tue Feb 14, 06 9:33 pm**

the feedback is really great guys, i appreciate your help

Posted: **Tue Feb 14, 06 9:35 pm**

Tis what the forum is for

great place this huh