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Impending MOT failure?

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 06 11:25 am
by vipergts
As mentioned in a previous episode......Steering this Charger must be like trying to steer the QE2 down Sevenoaks High St.

I've noticed that there is a lot of free play in the steering column shaft as it enters the box.

Is this an MOT failure?

And will tightening the steering box itself sort this problem?

I WILL get this car stopping and steering. (With all you expert help of course)

Thanks

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 06 11:33 am
by Blue
From memory you are allowed 3" of play at the steering wheel and still pass the test. Adjusting the box can help but with the wheels jacked up off the ground make sure you don't end up with any tight spots turning the wheel from lock to lock, you've overadjusted it if you have.

Re: Impending MOT failure?

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 06 12:06 pm
by Dave-R
vipergts wrote:And will tightening the steering box itself sort this problem?
Only if you do it as per the manual.

Also don't forget that the engine should be running when testing the play in the power steering box (but not the steering joints).

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 06 12:37 pm
by Blue
Dave's right of course, for some reason I had assumed we were talking about manual steering...

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 06 4:42 pm
by vipergts
Thanks Guys.
Next question is ......Where do I get a W/shop manual for this car?

Halfords haven't got one. :D

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 06 5:02 pm
by Anonymous
Definitely 3" of play at the steering wheel.
Also check for any up and down/side to side play in the steering column itself and any cracks in the steering wheel. these are all MOT failures.
As for the manual

There is this recent thread in the Wanted Section, which has a good download:
http://www.mopartalk.co.uk/mopartalk/vi ... php?t=8320

Or try Graham at American Auto mags

quotes@americanautomags.com

This is his email for Manuals - you are looking for the Factory shop manual though, not the Owners Manual...
Lastly try ebay in the states....folk are often selling their second hand manuals after they sell their cars.

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 06 6:20 pm
by latil
Cracks in steering wheel; From the testers manual
Reasons for rejection.
Steering wheel weakened by cracks or fractures,in a condition that hampers proper control or likely to injure the drivers hands.
NOTE:Cracks or incompleteness of the covering skin of a steering wheel or hub,are not a reason for rejection.

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 06 6:51 pm
by Anonymous
I just mentioned the cracks because I had a car fail on that once. I didn't think at the time that they were likely to weaken the strength or rigidity of the wheel, and it certainly never hurt my hands....but thats when you start getting into subjective issues and it is down to the vagaries of the tester.....
Best to find a good, fair MOT tester, and stick with 'em...
Nick