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Rear window removal/ refitting in a 66 B body

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 06 9:11 am
by db
Any opinions on my chances of doing this without it busting?
Rust is starting to take hold in the channel at the bottom so i fear it has to come out :(
The outer stainless trim came off easy, i haven't taken the inside trim off yet- i'm hoping that the cage touchin the upper piece won't be a problem :?
The rubber is glued to the glass, the rubber is intact but very hard- would warming it 1st help?
Do i take the glass out of the rubber or the glas and rubber out of the car?
I've found a couple of bits in old posts- Will Datsun using lots of welding rods to hold the rubber back, Blue says to do it in warm weather which shouldn't be a problem at the mo, Bratfink warned against placing it on cold concrete (bet you love being reminded... ;) )
Alistair would you still have that wire rope?
6 of the clips have rotted away, anyone got a few spares? Will you got any plastic ones knocking around or are they easily available?
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Or should i just grind out all the loose rust i can see, Jenolite it and pretend i never saw it????

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 06 10:51 am
by db
Well, despite no advise from you unhelpful lot ;) i went and did it.
Luckily i have enormous patience and a bloody-minded determination to not pay for anything so i now have the screen lying across the seat backs awaiting refit.
Removal was done, against all standard windshield protocol, with a butter knife and two screwdrivers (blunt ones, mind...). I firstly slid the knife along inside and out to cut the adhesive, then VERY carefully used the screwys to slowly press the rubber edge off the screen and gradually tuck the lip behind the glass edge. Starting at the top i worked across and down both sides. Going back over 2 or 3 times to tuck the lip down further, the glass slowly started to lift. The bottom corners were really hard to do but once i'd got a few inches along the bottom the glass just came away with no drama!
The rust wasn't too bad, i thoroughly ground away at it with various wire wheels & blunt drill bits. A few tiny holes appeared in the metal but as the area was mostly pretty solid i decided against welding, just hit it with Jenolite and Etch Primer, lovely!

Now i want to redo the parcel shelf while i have access cos it's presently made of cardboard (must be for weight-saving eh?) and start painting the cage black, might throw a bit of Waxoyl in the crevices too.
Several trim clips have rotted away so i'll replace those and whack a load of sealer in there when the screen goes back in.

Any tips on refitting?
Do i fit the rubber to the car or the glass 1st?
Is there any way of softening the rubber?
Anyone have a local/ cheap supplier for the metal trim clips?

Pics will follow if i can get this poxy pc to talk to my camera :evil:

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 06 10:54 am
by Pete
Well Done, I bet that was nerve-wracking :roll:

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 06 11:22 am
by Blue
Not certain on a '66 but you would usually fit the rubber to the glass 1st and then pull the whole lot in. I've read somewhere about soaking the rubber in something to soften it up, can't remember what or where! If I was me I'd just buy a new rubber they are so soft compared to an original and it seems a bit mad not to replace it and risk breaking the screen, hard rubbers can also tear when you are pulling really hard on them 'cos they just won't give.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 06 5:22 pm
by JC
blue you are right new rubber on the glass first when in use window sealer on glass side and rubber to body

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 06 8:25 pm
by db
The hardest bit was starting Pete! Once i'd taken the plunge with the 1st bit it was just a matter of taking it slow (Took around 3 hours), being gentle and VERY careful not to slip and not allowing any screwdriver to glass contact!
Ta for advice fellas, do Year One have the monopoly on rubberwear or is there anywhere this side?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 06 8:38 pm
by Blue
Try the Paddock, should be cheaper than Year one, Jacks auto parts is another.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 06 8:51 pm
by db
Much better, thanks Blue!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 06 10:02 pm
by db
So i've decided the old rubber will be fine (nothing to do with a new one being £100+, obviously...)
The new trim clips arrived today and are all fitted. I've been given some tubs of 'Gravitex Plus' underseal, made by U-pol, here:
http://www.u-pol.com/countries/us/downl ... avitex.pdf
I've no idea where my mate got it but it looks damn good stuff and he raved about it. So, the screen recess now has a luxurious coat of tough black stuff, hopefully that'll stand up to the beating it's gonna get shoving the screeen back in ;)
I've decided the cage looks naff in red so while the screen's out i've painted that bit of it shiny black, much better!

Pics may follow.....

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 06 10:16 pm
by db
Pics at last!!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 06 10:28 pm
by db
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by db
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 06 10:50 pm
by db
Last lot, for now...

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 06 10:18 pm
by db