69 or 70 Charger, how to tell??

Post by **MattH** » Fri Feb 02, 07 10:47 pm

Silly question maybe.
I have photos of a Charger shell, most likely a 69, which I need to help the owner confirm the year of, to get an age related plate. The car has no ID at all on it, so I have to go with the body style only to get it registered.
It can only be 69 or 70 due to the rear lights and marker lights, but looking at different cars, it appears 70s had two styles of lights.
Looking at pics on here, Duncs bargain has a full width type, Adrians repainted Lee has 2 seperate, Cliveys looks like the panel has a divider in the middle when the lights are off the car. My reference books and even the interchange manual don't give me a definite answer at the moment.
Is there any difference between the sheet metal and lights of a 69 and a 70? The shell looks very original, not messed with, so it hasnt had new panels, but I need to be sure before telling DVLA what is what.
I am ignoring the bits of metal that can be unbolted, doors, fenders etc to make the application watertight.
Any help much appreciated.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Feb 02, 07 10:56 pm

???????????? Dont know but would be very interested to find out.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Feb 02, 07 10:58 pm

just one thing Ive thought of.

Weren't the bolt holes in the floor for the front seats slightly different between the two models?

steveo · Post by **steveo** » Fri Feb 02, 07 10:59 pm

hi Matt, look at the side marker lamp holes on the rear quarters . the 70's had a longer rectangle because of the bulb Holder on one end ,
can you post any pictures of it .

steveo · Post by **steveo** » Fri Feb 02, 07 11:11 pm

if it has got no identifying 70 front end sheet metal , here is the 70 marker lamp i mentioned above . also there is a extra hole by the block connector on the fire wall , ( new routing of the amp gauge wire , for 1970) also can you seen any numbers on the top of the radiator support & stamped under the trunk rail weather strip on the drivers side , if so what are they

charger01 · Post by **charger01** » Sat Feb 03, 07 12:59 am

If its a 70 it will have a rectangle reflector in the cluster unique to 70, 69 lights dont have it.

Post by **MattH** » Sun Feb 04, 07 8:58 pm

Here is a rear and side view , plus the rear marker light from inside. I cant see any obvious wiring connector to the light, were they just a reflector on 69's ?

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Sun Feb 04, 07 9:03 pm

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Feb 04, 07 9:07 pm

looks 69 to me ! Also 69 has hole for headlamp pipes in bulkhead, 70 does not , and 70 has a set of studs sticking out of the slam panel
(says he sounding all knowledgable ! ) but i discovred the hard way all the differences!

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Feb 04, 07 9:10 pm

69, same colour mine was aswell

steveo · Post by **steveo** » Sun Feb 04, 07 9:27 pm

69

yes Matt Chrysler found a loop hole in the law for the 69 model year . that stated that all cars had to have amber front & red rear , - side marker lights . so they got away with reflectors . witch made production a bit cheaper. i guess they were up for any cost cutting

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Feb 05, 07 8:03 am

69 without doubt

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Feb 16, 07 6:54 pm

Hi Charger Dude.

Have both the numbers on the L/H trunk weatherseal rail and Top core support been removed?
It would be strange for both to be gone!

Looking good for a General, but a Daytona clone wolud be Awesome!!!

Best of luck Baccman.

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Fri Feb 16, 07 7:07 pm

Yep. Looks like a 69. There should also be a number stamped on the drivers side cowl if it is the same as an E-Body.

This is a 1970 Cuda. Hence the "0".

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69 or 70 Charger, how to tell??

69 or 70 Charger, how to tell??

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