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don't worry mate Vista is fine
if you bought a home PC you will have the home version that is tuned to do the surfing letter writing video and photo editing stuff without all the business network gubbins
Vista is fine....it isn't no windows millenium
businesses are always reluctant to change....they like all the home users to suffer first.
most work on a 3-4 year cycle of purchase to disposal of IT equipment and can't change anyway most buy in bulk and like the full estate of PCs to be identical
a lot have outsourced support which by its nature has to be across an estate of PCs that are identical which makes most business users late adopters of new technology...once they do they find all the little bits wrong with the software that home users wouldn't find because a home user never really uses the operating system to its full extent
once all the IT chaps at work start having problems at work they winge like there is no tomorrow ....quite rightly..... it is supposed to be a robust business operating system.. but the things they find that strikes fear into the heart of an IT manager who's job depends on his sales team being able to work are usually not things you as a home user are going to encounter or have an issue with.
switch windows update on
run a decent virus scanner
try to have a firewall set on your router rather than depend on the software one and pay for and register your microsoft products so if they recall or update you are kept informed
Dave
if you bought a home PC you will have the home version that is tuned to do the surfing letter writing video and photo editing stuff without all the business network gubbins
Vista is fine....it isn't no windows millenium
businesses are always reluctant to change....they like all the home users to suffer first.
most work on a 3-4 year cycle of purchase to disposal of IT equipment and can't change anyway most buy in bulk and like the full estate of PCs to be identical
a lot have outsourced support which by its nature has to be across an estate of PCs that are identical which makes most business users late adopters of new technology...once they do they find all the little bits wrong with the software that home users wouldn't find because a home user never really uses the operating system to its full extent
once all the IT chaps at work start having problems at work they winge like there is no tomorrow ....quite rightly..... it is supposed to be a robust business operating system.. but the things they find that strikes fear into the heart of an IT manager who's job depends on his sales team being able to work are usually not things you as a home user are going to encounter or have an issue with.
switch windows update on
run a decent virus scanner
try to have a firewall set on your router rather than depend on the software one and pay for and register your microsoft products so if they recall or update you are kept informed
Dave
The Greater Knapweed near the Mugwort by the Buckthorn tree is dying
Well Dave, your comments seem well founded (like Mister Robson's experience!)I reckon you may have put Woody's mind at rest...now I lnow I'm going to regret this but I'm going to ask anyway, what do you think of Apple Macs? 
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Thanks for all your comments, Dave999 has put my mind at rest 
I'll just live with it and see how I go on.
I dont want to hijack my own thread here but, IanZ, the 440 motor was bein' fitted today, and thats not vertual, thats for real . But I'll have more news about that by the weekend. As for the tax disc's... What a brill idea!!
I'll just live with it and see how I go on.
I dont want to hijack my own thread here but, IanZ, the 440 motor was bein' fitted today, and thats not vertual, thats for real
. But I'll have more news about that by the weekend. As for the tax disc's... What a brill idea!!Ivor wrote: Apple Macs?
great at what they do.
hard to repair
one box machine which you can only fit specific parts to
apple mac is ya modern merc...not allowed to open the bonnet when its under warranty and if you do you don't have the tools to remove anything and you can't replace parts with cheap generic bits
PC is a mk 2 escort...the box looks ok but you can bung anything you want in and nobody cares...if it goes wrong its yer own fault
apple mac you suffer the costs when it time to repair a niche machine.
PC architecture is a mine field of mismtached parts....its not surprisng things go wrong.
granted if you get a dell or an HP you are still tied into some bespoke hardware and you have to buy spares from them but...its still cheaper than buying from apple. i know full well if my dell goes wrong i can replace disks memory and any plug in board with what the hell i like.
i may even be able to use the power supply and case again
Mac architecture is owned by apple and a few that they like. its closely regulated and they write the operating system as well.....it aint going to go wrong.
in my opinion you buy a cheep PC and you run a custom linux install....compile your own kernal and you will have a machine just as reliable for none of the price....can i do it...no.... its a right pain in the butt to do
but a simple linux install is now nearly as easy as a windows install.....you need to know about disk partitions and boot sectors command line interface and such but if you own a PC you should know about all of that already....
linux costs the £ for the DVDs its on and a book to tell you how to do it no more than £30 and 0 if you download it
open office is free
K desktop for ya windows like functionality is free.
me i use XP and rebuild the bloody thing every 2 years....
if a hooky copy of vista comes my way i'll try it and buy it if i like it
we use it on 3 pcs at work in order to check operating system and browser compatibility with our website
the other 800 PCs run XP and will do so until you can't get xp on a new box because all the PCs have designed for XP stamped on em hence all of our standard disk images for cloning are XP
we can build 25 machines at a time and it takes 45 minutes from box to desktop
because our clone image works well with the issued and stock PCs we have.design studio uses Macs.....they do their own support ....IT doesn't touch em we just provide network and storage....if they want to be weird they can
we offerd PC with the same software but no.... "i'm a creative" got in the way.it all comes down to resourcing and cost
dave
The Greater Knapweed near the Mugwort by the Buckthorn tree is dying
Sorry Dave you are totally wrong.
There are a lot of generic parts that fit Macs and PC
The new generation of Macs are easy to work on and fix. Apple now encourage you to open and replace, most parts slot in via guides and are totally idiot proof..
AND you can use whatever OS you want.
There are a lot of generic parts that fit Macs and PC
The new generation of Macs are easy to work on and fix. Apple now encourage you to open and replace, most parts slot in via guides and are totally idiot proof..
AND you can use whatever OS you want.
I am keeping this Mopar....... SOLD!
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I wish they would let us build PCs by cloning here at work. Instead we have to RIS build them over the network and it takes a couple of hours by the time you have re-started it enough times to get all the updates and specific software policies on. But try to do more than 2 or 3 at a time and the network load slows it down considerably.
Thanks Dave,
I appreciate the time you've taken to reply, it's interesting to get a practical PC type to give their opinion.
We imported our first Mac in the mid eighties, it was brought into the country on a plane from California...we've still got it and it works! Massive 128k hard drive I think!
Jeff is quite right, you can put generic bits in recent Macs but we tend to stick with tried and tested parts, we've found that if a PC repairer gets hold of a Mac they are never the same again!
I appreciate the time you've taken to reply, it's interesting to get a practical PC type to give their opinion.
We imported our first Mac in the mid eighties, it was brought into the country on a plane from California...we've still got it and it works! Massive 128k hard drive I think!
Jeff is quite right, you can put generic bits in recent Macs but we tend to stick with tried and tested parts, we've found that if a PC repairer gets hold of a Mac they are never the same again!
Woody, don't worry if you've got Vista, despite what everybody is saying on here it is the way forward if you want to use Windows and you have a new PC, XP isn't going to be supported forever.
Ivor, where did you get all that from????
The main problem people have experienced with Vista is that they are upgrading from XP on hardware that ran XP fine and then are having performance issues using Vista. I have found Vista EXTREMELY reliable and have only experienced one crash if memory serves me right, in the last 8 months. XP was always going down.
Some software you WILL need to upgrade for Vista, but not the mainstream software such as Photoshop and Office.
The other thing to remember is that a lot of the performance sapping features in Vista can be turned off if your hardware isn't up to it. We're running Quad core processors with 4Gb RAM and it runs fine but if we were running it on our old dual core, XP machines I would turn off all the fancy interface effects etc.
We're using Vista in a professional environment and I consider it an improvement over XP, as long as you don't fear change, you'll get use to it.
Ivor, where did you get all that from????
The main problem people have experienced with Vista is that they are upgrading from XP on hardware that ran XP fine and then are having performance issues using Vista. I have found Vista EXTREMELY reliable and have only experienced one crash if memory serves me right, in the last 8 months. XP was always going down.
Some software you WILL need to upgrade for Vista, but not the mainstream software such as Photoshop and Office.
The other thing to remember is that a lot of the performance sapping features in Vista can be turned off if your hardware isn't up to it. We're running Quad core processors with 4Gb RAM and it runs fine but if we were running it on our old dual core, XP machines I would turn off all the fancy interface effects etc.
We're using Vista in a professional environment and I consider it an improvement over XP, as long as you don't fear change, you'll get use to it.
Martin Walker
Better to post it here Ivor, then people can decide for themselves whether they are features they would want or not. You can tailor Vista for your needs, be it work entertainment etc, and there are different versions of Vista.
Any list you have on security issues will be out of date because as long as you're using automatic updates, these are fixed as they are found. MS get such a slating over holes in their systems they are very pro-active.
One of the most annoying things when you start to use Vista is the amount of security that has been added to it, it seems like you're always being asked whether it is OK to run an app, allow a connection etc.
Any upgrade in OS may require you to upgrade software and hardware, and incidently, Apple are THE WORST for this.
Take it from me, we've been using Vista for 8 months and it's COOL, as long as you have the hardware to run it.
Any list you have on security issues will be out of date because as long as you're using automatic updates, these are fixed as they are found. MS get such a slating over holes in their systems they are very pro-active.
One of the most annoying things when you start to use Vista is the amount of security that has been added to it, it seems like you're always being asked whether it is OK to run an app, allow a connection etc.
Any upgrade in OS may require you to upgrade software and hardware, and incidently, Apple are THE WORST for this.
Take it from me, we've been using Vista for 8 months and it's COOL, as long as you have the hardware to run it.
Martin Walker