Yeah Dave I heard it was on it's way south, should hit us by late afternoon.
Glad your lad wasnt seriously injured Bob.
I think a lot has to do with the modern cars we drive. Very good brakes and steering these days and people are lulled into a false sense of security. People dont realize those fat low profile tyres are twice as good as standard radials of the 70's, but when there is snow and ice they are twice as bad for grip. maybe they should programe something into the driver training prgrame about safe winter driving. But no that would be too obvious.
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But of course I bet he still has to pay more for his insurance than that girl does, because as everyone knows young women drivers are much safer than men, it says so in the advertsKnightcharger wrote:Thanks guys he had slowed due to the conditions a young women in her Mums car hit the ice at speed braked crossed the center of the road and pushed him backwards and nearly of the road luckily he had his belt on. he has the bruises to prove it and the air bag went off.
Better driver training is the answer; my sister drives on pack ice in her Lexus (not a 4x4) no problems, and thats for months on end. If the driving test were tightenned so that only the best (ie. sensible and competant) 50% of applicants could pass this kind of thing would not be an issue ... oh, and that includes making all existing license holders re-apply 
It would also get congestion and pollution sorted ...
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We can all be Sensible on the test,but then go back to bad driving when we RE-Pass I'm afraid,so would it help?Holly wrote:Better driver training is the answer; my sister drives on pack ice in her Lexus (not a 4x4) no problems, and thats for months on end. If the driving test were tightenned so that only the best (ie. sensible and competant) 50% of applicants could pass this kind of thing would not be an issue ... oh, and that includes making all existing license holders re-apply
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Yeah but the differance is Tony that people like us know when to be sensible weather the law is watching upon us or not and it's certainly not the done thing to overdrive in icy conditions. This accident was caused by a girl totally miss judged the situation. In short it was ignorance not mischeifnes. If she'd had more instructor training it may not have heppened at all! A skid pad day compulsery to the test would be a step in the right direction too.
Yep I agree ask Matt if they let him drive them police cars without skid pan training
Glad to hear the old boy is okay Bob...there is a serious need for instruction in driving in adverse weather conditions.
My route to and from work is littered with wreckage of cars whos drivers have been simply driving too fast or standing on the brakes and hoping the car will stop rather than driving according to the conditions.
My route to and from work is littered with wreckage of cars whos drivers have been simply driving too fast or standing on the brakes and hoping the car will stop rather than driving according to the conditions.
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latil wrote:There is no legal duty for any council to put down salt.
Quite true Steve, but the 'system' decided to put the onus on the driver by requiring him/her to drive with due care and attention, taking the conditions into account and adjusting their driving accordingly by adopting a defensive driving technique instead of giving it Tommy big nuts.
Some of the twats I have seen driving round where we live deserve to crash (provided no innocent bystanders get hurt in the process). I have been close to being caught out a number of times and that was taking it easy.
The other problem with not having this sort of weather for 18 years is that there are roughly 17 years worth of new drivers who don't know how to drive in less than ideal conditions.
Glad your lads ok Bob.
