Nitrous Re-fills!! HELP!!

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Sat Jun 18, 11 10:20 am

Hi there, Posting for Lazy Roydon.

Really struggling to get Nitrous re-fills in the Herts/Cambridge area in readiness for the Nats and potentially the meeting before that at the Pod.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated, thanks.

Also clarification on another issue:

Roydon's NOS bottles are DOT stamped, but I am not sure if another European standard has come into force that may prevent companies re-filling them. Does anyone have information on this, thanks

All the best

Pete

Guy · Post by **Guy** » Sat Jun 18, 11 11:39 am

Have you tried Jon Websters? Hes not too far from you or the Pod..

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Sat Jun 18, 11 2:47 pm

Customville always did refills, assume they still do, not a million miles away.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Sat Jun 18, 11 3:17 pm

Thanks guys!!!

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Jun 18, 11 10:47 pm

I think steve from motorshack usually does spray refills at most big events.

Kev · Post by **Kev** » Sun Jun 19, 11 6:45 am

At this time, all cylinders manufactured within the UK and Europe have TPED or PED approval meaning they ARE EU approved. NX and NOS Cylinders are not EU approved as they only conform to DOT standards, and SHOULD NOT be refilled within the EU.

U.S. DOT cylinders we're allowed to be imported into the UK using Multilateral Agreement M125 but clearly stating that they should be re-exported back to the states for re-filling, however as of June 2006 this agreement has now been extended to 2011 and renamed the M180.

http://www.unece.org/trans/danger/multi ... 0180_e.htm (Please click for details)

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Sun Jun 19, 11 8:53 am

Good update, thanks Kev.

This is turning more into "aggro in a bottle" than "throttle in a bottle"

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Jun 19, 11 11:05 am

Motorshack will fill all bottles no problem including nos,nx etc.
I think he advertises refills on eBay and states any bottle filled..

db · Post by db » Sun Jun 19, 11 11:14 am

It's all here mate

http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic ... c&start=75

Quote:
Just been checking up on the specifics of bottles- whats legal and what ain't...

This page is all about testing and refilling, from the UK's largest N2O supplier-
http://www.nitrousoxidesupplies.co.uk/a ... /faq.phtml

The interesting bits...
We can refill any cylinder of any size with any connection as long as it is within its test period and is EU (PED or TPED) Approved. Any EU approved cylinder will have a " n " mark on it, otherwise known as a pie mark.
http://www.luxfercylinders.com/about/qu ... tped.shtml
(I'VE JUST RUNG THEM AND THIS DOES INCLUDE CO2 BOTTLES AND YES EVEN USED FIRE EXTIGUISHERS, PROVIDING THEY ARE APPROVED AS ABOVE)

At this time, all cylinders manufactured within the UK and Europe have TPED or PED approval meaning they ARE EU approved. NX and NOS Cylinders are not EU approved as they only conform to DOT standards, and SHOULD NOT be refilled within the EU.

U.S. DOT cylinders we're allowed to be imported into the UK using Multilateral Agreement M125 but clearly stating that they should be re-exported back to the states for re-filling, however as of June 2006 this agreement has now been extended to 2011 and renamed the M180.
http://www.unece.org/trans/danger/multi ... 0180_e.htm

Here's the interesting bit about Non-EU made bottles (Eg NOS)- ...
(4) When empty, the pressure receptacles shall not be refilled and shall be re-exported to the country of origin

We can Retest cylinders through our sister company Energas, at their retest facility in Bradford. Retest costs (£50 + P&P) and the cylinder will need to be stamped to indicate it has been tested.
Non EU Cylinders however cannot be retested or modified to EU spec.

Anyone using a NOS or other US-spec kit is on shaky legal ground!
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Jon Connolly · Post by **Jon Connolly** » Sun Jun 19, 11 12:47 pm

Pete / Roydon

I`ve got the same problem .. I did try with Andy M but he got the ump when he saw you walking towards him with 2 empties

I`m going to drive up to Motorshack tomorrow to get mine done .. if you can drive out to A14 and meet me, I`ll take your bottles with me

Dave999 · Post by **Dave999** » Wed Jul 06, 11 12:08 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5kg-Co2-Fire-Exti ... 3cb98164b3

Dave

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Wed Jul 06, 11 12:21 pm

Dave999 wrote:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5kg-Co2-Fire-Exti ... 3cb98164b3

Dave

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Sat Jul 16, 11 1:23 pm

There is a place close by..... I just can't remember the bloody name! Oh Yes!!!!

NITROUS TECH REFILL STATION
UNIT 16, STUKELEY ROAD BUSINESS PARK, HUNTINGDON, CAMBRIDGESHIRE, PE29 6HQ
Phone: 0870 7357777, E-mail: NITROUS@VEHICLE-TECH.CO.UK

Jon Connolly · Post by **Jon Connolly** » Mon Jul 25, 11 8:05 am

Can confirm that websters do nos refills while you wait

There is absolutely no dramas about bottles / regulations etc etc

Just turn up with your yank bottles and leave 10 mins later

Mon - fri 8 am to 6 pm ( closed 1 - 2 for lunch )

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Mon Jul 25, 11 8:12 am

Thanks Jon - did you and Roydon tie up on Sunday so he could get his bottle adapter, we still have not tested the nitrous installation fully yet...