Dog attack. Stupid public.

[drewcrane]

It was interesting to see how the size and type of dogs changed the further west we traveled the last one is a Pomeranian/schitzou mix they wanted to mix a bull dog with a schitzou and call it bulls#$t

[Carl]

Here are my two, both rescue dogs



Cody on the left come from a not so desirable person and had Big Big issues with other Dogs and over protective (Kennel guarded), obviously she had been taught this and was never going to find a home as everybody was put off by her history. I gave her a chance and turned her around and she is now a completely different dog, took a good 6 months.

Then we decided to get another dog so along come Os. I took Cody along to meet another Dog, but at first the re homing place where reluctant to let us have another Dog with her they recognised her they said "That's D**** (wont say her original name) you cant have a dog with her" Os chose the Mrs (Don't know his original name he was picked up as a stray) so I explained everything about Cody and they relented and let the Dogs meet, instantly they started playing, and the rest is history.

I didn't take Os home that day, I waited a couple of days then got him but introduced them on neutral ground and they have been close ever since.

I always make sure they stick to strict rules as they would in a pack, they know the pecking order and they know their place, its not cruel dogs are hard wired to accept a hierarchy We always eat first, they have to wait until I say they can have it when their food is put down, never allowed on the bed or furniture that's our place, plus they cant sit higher than us and look down on us (dominant position) They follow us through doors they never go first. Sometimes I will hard stare at them until they blink (that's a calming gesture) and turn away that reinforces my status. All their toys are mine i claim them by standing over the toys untill the dogs walk off, I claim their food too by doing the same and taking it off them.

I walk with them off lead one either side and neither dog tries to walk in front, if they do I give them a little check. I've not taught them to walk to heal they just do it because they know their position in the pack and they take no notice of other dogs.

[pete walton]

I have owned a few Ridgebacks in my time ,,never had a bad one .....They are a hunting dog not a fighting dog,breed by the Boers for hunting big game ...... They are not sure how the ridge came about as they were breed out of Dalmations and the Mastiv breeds...First pair in England were given to Queen Victoria and lived on the IOW ....If you live in a small house or a flat you are asking for trouble with a RB....Thay need open ground and miles of it ....Gus was a one off ,,,he was a monster ,,never had problem with him ever ...... Blame the owner,or were the dog lives , flats small houses in citys and they have a chuffing great monster for a pet........ and there idea of walking a 6 stone monster is taking it over the park for 10 minutes ,,,,,,,,,,,

[TYREMAN]

I think your Dogs should be on a lead Mate sory to say,but i do hope Hemi is well and back to normal.

I was a Postman for 17 years so could tell you a few Dog storys

Only ever got bitten once thankfully not scared of them myself,but some workmates scared of them had far more problems than me as they could sence it and go for them.

I looked after a Staffy last Year called Poppy,this was a stressfull time for me.She Bit a Dog while i was looking after her.The Owner told me not to let her near any other Dog as she wants to fight them.

Took her out everyday but there were lots of Dogs not on leads out for a walk.I warned the owners to keep there Dogs away to be safe if it looked like they would come close but some owner would not listne...one Dog She managed to bite on the Ear despite my efforts to hold her back.

She was fine with people and Kids no problems at all,but She will not tolerate other Dogs.I did manage to improve her behaviour with help from a mate,but did not have her long enough to change Her before the owner returned from holiday.

The owner wants to pay me anything i want to look after her again for future holidays of his
But it was a bad experiance for me so no thanks!

Not much of a Dog lover much myself i am afraid.I do not dislike them but to much like hardwork for me! give me a Cat over one anyday they can look after themselves.

You like Dog...I like Cat.

You like Mopar...i like Ford

[drewcrane]

You like Dog...I like Cat.


simple I had cats.now I have dogs cats are alot easier,dogs require attention


Dogs will alert you of danger ( In their minds) .Cats will watch you get harmed.............both great pets......but not the same


Sorry to see this happen to your dog ,but people here let their dogs run free I prefer a leash ,we have had a rash of coyote attacks on our dogs so I am reluctant to even take our dogs for a walk due to that,

let alone other dogs........I CRINGE when I see a dog not on a lead.........

[TrevD]

Sorry to hear about your poor dog, but to reflrct on petes comments, my EX breeds ridgebacks and when she was still here we had at least 3 in the house. they were never a problem but were trained from puppies by her. from my experience they are laid back dogs, not fighters. looks like the owner is taking some responsibility for the incident , obviously knows she has problem dogs. hope your dog recovers ok.

[morgan]

Update - Council now not doing anything, attack was 5M (yes, metres) outside their boundary. Undeterred I contacted the neighbouring council, submitted my report.

Long story short - they cant do anything. They will send a type letter and thats it. Cant make them muzzle. Cant stop them in public. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Dog on dog so dont care.

I've done my bit. Sure they will tear something to pieces eventually whilst their owner is powerless to stop them. Bananarama! useless.

[drewcrane]

Update - Council now not doing anything, attack was 5M (yes, metres) outside their boundary. Undeterred I contacted the neighbouring council, submitted my report.

Long story short - they cant do anything. They will send a type letter and thats it. Cant make them muzzle. Cant stop them in public. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Dog on dog so dont care.

I've done my bit. Sure they will tear something to pieces eventually whilst their owner is powerless to stop them. Bananarama! useless.

Dam sorry to hear that ,here in the states that dog would have been taken from its owner ,and the owner would pay a hefty fine to boot again sorry to hear this , now you dam near have to go out with a police baton just to defend you and your dog,the owners need to be held accountable

[TYREMAN]

The Dog was not on a leash,so the way i see it its your own fault,if it was on a Bananarama! would not have happened i do not see how hou have a case?

If it was up to me it would be law that all dogs in Public should be on a lead AND muzzled.

I also think working Dogs should not be allowed to be owned by Private owners...unless you can prove the Dog is worked.

I think it is cruel to own working Dogs unless you own a Farm or similar where they are put to work.If an owner works fulltime i do not see how you can give an active Dog the life it deserves.An hours walk a day is not enough.

Bring in stronger rules,and a licence with fees to pay for owning working Dogs.Lapdogs only for home ownership.

Things are a lot better than the 1970s when i was a child it was hard work not to end up covered in Dog Bananarama!
stray Dogs and poop all over the place.

[morgan]

Read the post tyreman... She *was* on a leash when the attack happened. I dont agree that makes any odds though - control and responsibility do not rest on a leash alone. Her dog was leashed - she couldnt hold it...

I stand by my original opinion - bananarama! public !!!

[Charger]

The Dog was not on a leash,so the way i see it its your own fault,if it was on a Bananarama! would not have happened i do not see how hou have a case?

really??

… I put Hemi on the lead and the loose dog runs over and starts 'aggressive sniffing' (Hemi naturally just stands there, head down). At this point the other one, dog-on-lead, she is holding goes berserk, she can’t hold it, it tears over , leaps on poor Hemi, wrestles her down …

last time I checked, I think that means both dogs were on leads at the time of the attack

If it was up to me it would be law that all dogs in Public should be on a lead AND muzzled.

I also think working Dogs should not be allowed to be owned by Private owners...unless you can prove the Dog is worked.

I think it is cruel to own working Dogs unless you own a Farm or similar where they are put to work.If an owner works fulltime i do not see how you can give an active Dog the life it deserves.An hours walk a day is not enough.

Bring in stronger rules,and a licence with fees to pay for owning working Dogs.Lapdogs only for home ownership.

Things are a lot better than the 1970s when i was a child it was hard work not to end up covered in Dog Bananarama! stray Dogs and poop all over the place.

I don’t know about dog Shite, that’s absolute bull Shite!!

[TYREMAN]

Read the post tyreman... She *was* on a leash when the attack happened. I dont agree that makes any odds though - control and responsibility do not rest on a leash alone. Her dog was leashed - she couldnt hold it...

I stand by my original opinion - bananarama! public !!!

Sorry about that, thought she was off the lead for some reason.

Simon i stand by my statement even though i would be fighting a losing battle as the UK is a nation of Dog lovers and owners.

[phil442]

The Dog was not on a leash,so the way i see it its your own fault,if it was on a Bananarama! would not have happened i do not see how hou have a case?

really??

… I put Hemi on the lead and the loose dog runs over and starts 'aggressive sniffing' (Hemi naturally just stands there, head down). At this point the other one, dog-on-lead, she is holding goes berserk, she can’t hold it, it tears over , leaps on poor Hemi, wrestles her down …

last time I checked, I think that means both dogs were on leads at the time of the attack

If it was up to me it would be law that all dogs in Public should be on a lead AND muzzled.

I also think working Dogs should not be allowed to be owned by Private owners...unless you can prove the Dog is worked.

I think it is cruel to own working Dogs unless you own a Farm or similar where they are put to work.If an owner works fulltime i do not see how you can give an active Dog the life it deserves.An hours walk a day is not enough.

Bring in stronger rules,and a licence with fees to pay for owning working Dogs.Lapdogs only for home ownership.

Things are a lot better than the 1970s when i was a child it was hard work not to end up covered in Dog Bananarama! stray Dogs and poop all over the place.

I don’t know about dog Shite, that’s absolute bull Shite!!

with you there complete bull Bananarama! - in fact, probably the most stupid all encompasing load of dogs danglies I have read in a long while. Our dog walks to heel off lead no problem, but pulls when off it (unless "reminded")...
Hopefully her offspring will have inherited her perfect temperament (that's the idea, anyway).

[Dave81]

The Dog was not on a leash,so the way i see it its your own fault,if it was on a Bananarama! would not have happened i do not see how hou have a case?

really??

… I put Hemi on the lead and the loose dog runs over and starts 'aggressive sniffing' (Hemi naturally just stands there, head down). At this point the other one, dog-on-lead, she is holding goes berserk, she can’t hold it, it tears over , leaps on poor Hemi, wrestles her down …

last time I checked, I think that means both dogs were on leads at the time of the attack

If it was up to me it would be law that all dogs in Public should be on a lead AND muzzled.

I also think working Dogs should not be allowed to be owned by Private owners...unless you can prove the Dog is worked.

I think it is cruel to own working Dogs unless you own a Farm or similar where they are put to work.If an owner works fulltime i do not see how you can give an active Dog the life it deserves.An hours walk a day is not enough.

Bring in stronger rules,and a licence with fees to pay for owning working Dogs.Lapdogs only for home ownership.

Things are a lot better than the 1970s when i was a child it was hard work not to end up covered in Dog Bananarama! stray Dogs and poop all over the place.

I don’t know about dog Shite, that’s absolute bull Shite!!

with you there complete bull Bananarama! - in fact, probably the most stupid all encompasing load of dogs danglies I have read in a long while. Our dog walks to heel off lead no problem, but pulls when off it (unless "reminded")...
Hopefully her offspring will have inherited her perfect temperament (that's the idea, anyway).

Don't agree with all of what Tony has written, but i do agree that all dogs in public SHOULD be on a lead. Just because you know your dog is as soft as a brush, does not mean that the slightly nervous person your dog is bounding towards does.

Even cute dogs when excited and sprinting can look menacing to the uninitiated!

I would also say that it seems to be a common excuse of owners when the dog (for some reason) does break habbit, and nip, scratch, jump up and possibly bite........'he/she's never normally does that sorry'.......


Not aimed at you Phil or anyone, and as i have said, i like dogs.

But unless out in the wilderness (wales then) i believe they should be on leads to help protech them, their owner and other members of public!

[Dave-R]

The general rules I live by is;

If there is another dog on a leash , mine goes on the leash.

If the other dog is not on a leash mine stays off the leash.

If there is a road near by the leash is on.

But if I suspect there is any likelyhood of any bother I default to the leash just in case. However one dog being on the leash and the other off makes it much more likely to end in trouble.

In most cases I walk my dog in the same places and almost every dog we meet have met before. All us local dog owners all know each other and our dogs well. The more they socialise off the leash the less likely they are to "attack". Although "attack" is the wrong word because the dog that reacts like that is almost always doing it because it is worried the other dog might attack it first.
A dogs first defence is to make itself look dangerous and try to make a dog they are worried about scared of them.

A dog that does not freely and frequently come into contact with other dogs is much more likely to react badly.

It took me two years to stop my Billy (a rescue dog) trying to intimidate other dogs. Now he still occasionally trys to get bigger dogs to submit to him but these days he does it by seeing it they will let him hump them. If they "tell him off" for trying it on he just accepts that.

The main path we walk on is also a cycle path. Billy is trained to come to heel when ever I see a bike and warn him. Sometimes he sees the bike first and comes to me by himself.

It annoys me when bike riders come from behind really fast and they don't have a bell. I have had a few close calls from bikes only just missing me or the dog.