Mopar 4 speeds
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What a dreadful looking car.......Why have plain steels on the back, and American racing on the front??....... and a hood scoop........Keep it stock, like mine, this was when I had two many lights

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MilesnMiles
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Each to their own, but you can use an auto like a stick shift anyway. I shift mine manually all the time. Got a Dunc built trans with a TransGo shift kit and it has no overlap between shifts, chirps tyres on speedy 1-2 shifts, lock it in second for having fun thru the twisty roads locally. All the benefits of a stick without the hassle of a clutch 
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Very true miles no missed shift,s and if you took on a similar car with a 4 speed you would blow its doors offMilesnMiles wrote:Each to their own, but you can use an auto like a stick shift anyway. I shift mine manually all the time. Got a Dunc built trans with a TransGo shift kit and it has no overlap between shifts, chirps tyres on speedy 1-2 shifts, lock it in second for having fun thru the twisty roads locally. All the benefits of a stick without the hassle of a clutch
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Les Szabo
A stick street car is good fun and enjoyable there's no doubt, been there etc. But, the bottom line is:-
If you wanna Drag your hot street car and find out how quick it "really" is, forget it.....unless you have all the right parts, and all the right parts won't be fitted to your stock street car, and I'm not just talking about the clutch.
The only way you'll run your best is if you hook that car hard, and to do that you'll need to leave at around 4k rpm plus if you have something hot under the bonnet...and then you have the issue of shifting it as fast as a good Auto will....not impossible but most of the time it will mean getting rid of the H-pattern to a straight pattern shifter and preferably learning how to do WOT shifts, that takes some practice and balls!
If you can master all that and keep everything together you may actually run a comparable time to what you would with a good Full Manual Race footbraked Auto/converter set up. I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know but anything less than I've described and you could be half a second off+ of what your car is capable of with an Auto. A hard leaving stick car will also need more attention to the chassis set up.
So enjoy the street, and the strip with your hot 4 speed car, but don't expect what you expected ET wise if you've done your hp/weight calculations and you won't be dissapointed.
Les
If you wanna Drag your hot street car and find out how quick it "really" is, forget it.....unless you have all the right parts, and all the right parts won't be fitted to your stock street car, and I'm not just talking about the clutch.
The only way you'll run your best is if you hook that car hard, and to do that you'll need to leave at around 4k rpm plus if you have something hot under the bonnet...and then you have the issue of shifting it as fast as a good Auto will....not impossible but most of the time it will mean getting rid of the H-pattern to a straight pattern shifter and preferably learning how to do WOT shifts, that takes some practice and balls!
If you can master all that and keep everything together you may actually run a comparable time to what you would with a good Full Manual Race footbraked Auto/converter set up. I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know but anything less than I've described and you could be half a second off+ of what your car is capable of with an Auto. A hard leaving stick car will also need more attention to the chassis set up.
So enjoy the street, and the strip with your hot 4 speed car, but don't expect what you expected ET wise if you've done your hp/weight calculations and you won't be dissapointed.
Les
MilesnMiles wrote:lock it in second for having fun thru the twisty roads locally. All the benefits of a stick without the hassle of a clutch
Cannonball wrote: Very true miles no missed shift,s and if you took on a similar car with a 4 speed you would blow its doors off
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Steve Chapman
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Fingers crossed for you Chip. Be great to see that stomping on British roads!!!Chip wrote:Im convinced, be in talks now with owner to start the ball rolling. 4Speed on its way to Yorkshire , unless he pulls out , happened twice already.
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I wanna go so FAST i think i'm going to DIE!..........Then i'll shift into second!
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I wanna go so FAST i think i'm going to DIE!..........Then i'll shift into second!
"My Car is a work in progress, Probably never gonna get finished, never gonna have the money to Bananarama!!"
Nope not just you Boz im wiv yaBozwell wrote:i started this poll a while back to see what the ratio of four speeds were to autos as i was quite suprised at how many four speed cars there actually are. i was under the impression that the four speed is quite rare but it seems not that rare.
my day job allows me to drive many high horsepower cars (that some weigh about 900kgs) all with manual gearboxes. so i'm used to heavy snatcy clutches. i think four speeds make for a more interesting car but then i am never going to see a drag strip in the Barracuda. i prefer the curcuit type of thrashing around where you come up to a corner at 100mph+ and four wheel drift through the apex(just me then?)
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Carl wrote:You dont need a circuit for that,Bozwell wrote:i started this poll a while back to see what the ratio of four speeds were to autos as i was quite suprised at how many four speed cars there actually are. i was under the impression that the four speed is quite rare but it seems not that rare.
my day job allows me to drive many high horsepower cars (that some weigh about 900kgs) all with manual gearboxes. so i'm used to heavy snatcy clutches. i think four speeds make for a more interesting car but then i am never going to see a drag strip in the Barracuda. i prefer the curcuit type of thrashing around where you come up to a corner at 100mph+ and four wheel drift through the apex(just me then?)
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Nope not just you Boz im wiv ya
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WATTS RACING TRANSMISSIONS, CLOBBER THE COMPETITION ITS CLOBBERIN TIME
OFTEN OUTNUMBERED NEVER OUTGUNNED,
HEY WHATS THE TOP END ON THAT SUPERSPORTS. UNLIMITED,
I HAVE A NVQW
LIFE GOES PRETTY FAST, IF YOU DONT LOOK ROUND A WHILE YOU MAY JUST MISS IT,
THE PASS IS THE JUICE,
LOVED BY FEW,
HATED BY MANY
RESPECTED BY ALL
WATTS RACING TRANSMISSIONS, CLOBBER THE COMPETITION ITS CLOBBERIN TIME
OFTEN OUTNUMBERED NEVER OUTGUNNED,
HEY WHATS THE TOP END ON THAT SUPERSPORTS. UNLIMITED,
I HAVE A NVQW
LIFE GOES PRETTY FAST, IF YOU DONT LOOK ROUND A WHILE YOU MAY JUST MISS IT,
THE PASS IS THE JUICE,
LOVED BY FEW,
HATED BY MANY
RESPECTED BY ALL