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Why? Is there much talk of the vote down south?

Scotland is electrified right now, never have I seen the country so united, its amazing. I have no idea how the No vote has almost 50% supporting them as everyone seems to be happily talking about the vote and will be voting yes.

Its a great feeling of comradeship, I really hope we are not let down.

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Stop sitting on the fence and tell us how you are going to vote ?





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well the latest poll is already haveing a detrimental effect on the strength of the ££

all we need now is another recession


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Hopefully drops some more. I'll be bringing the house sale funds from Norway back to Scotland in a few months at its peak the exchange rate was close to 20% better than it is now. :D
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mopar_mark wrote:I Bananarama! would hurry up & be over with....
Amen to that.
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Never thought of this point to be fair but considering what a Cash Cow Road Tax and Fuel tax is Im 100% sure this has all been taken into account and is in hand. Should a 'Yes' vote pass then there is over two years for whatever plan there is to be implemented.

On the other hand this forum of all places know how easy it actually is buying a car from over-sea's and outside of the EU and bringing into the UK. Its a no brainer within the EU.

Now Scotland is in a position of not knowing if we would be admitted to the EU and you know why? Because although the EU has offered to answer that question, it will only do so if asked by the UK government, and the UK government refuses to ask. Funny that is it not? :D :read2:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-20164826

Should an independent Scotland be admitted to the EU buying a car from another country, ie England would be no different than buying a car in Spain.



mad machs wrote:Interesting little article

http://www.scot-buzz.co.uk/business-eco ... -car-trade
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Look up Barnett formula


read this

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/fac ... ster/18821



It’s no secret that the Barnett formula means that Scotland has enjoyed significantly higher spending on public services in general, including healthcare, than England, for many years.

even Mr barnett says his formula is poor and is now favouring scotland

note scotland chose not to spend its £900M windfall for its NHS in the 2000s on its NHS....


Barnett fromual when applied now favours scotland over the north of england deprived areas of london and the midlands

depending on what you read, and id suggest a range of articles (although the one above is quite even handed) we've been propping their spending up for years.

this just makes me annoyed

I'm off to book my tickets north so i can plant my YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN ENGLAND sign at an appropriately dessolate boarder crossing


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This old chestnut, huh?

This has already been covered and proven to be a load of Bananarama!. Do you really think all three leaders of the LibLabCon partys would be in utter panic mode dropping everything and flying to Scotland for talks of this was real refection of the money 'spent in Scotland? To believe that is simply naive. The North of England and Scotland have nothing in common and the North of England produces little and has little resources either. In reality Scotland is propping up the rest of the UK and this is why Westminster is so scared right now.

Even the french get it.

On average, UK spending is around £1,200 higher per person in Scotland than in the UK as a whole. But on average Scotland sends £1,700 more per person to the UK in taxes. We only get back around 70% of the extra money we send to London. The other 30% is kept by Westminster and spent in England,Wales and Northern Ireland.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2013/11/9348/6

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2013/11/9348/6
receipts and what it spends is called a deficit, and
almost every country on Earth (except Norway and
Switzerland) has one. It’s a normal state of affairs - it’s
just how modern governments work, though the No
campaign likes to make out that Scotland would be the
only country in the world with a deficit.
Scotland’s deficit is in fact considerably smaller than
the UK’s - in 2011/12 the UK’s deficit was
£126bn [15], making Scotland’s population share of it
£10.6bn. Yet Scotland’s own deficit that year, according
to Alistair Darling [16], was only £7.6bn.
In other words, in just one year Scotland had to
take on an extra £3bn of the rest of the UK’s debt,
as well as all of its own.
For perspective, £3bn is roughly three times the cost
of free university tuition (£590m), free prescriptions
(£60m), free bus passes for pensioners (£180m) and
free personal care for the elderly (£200m) combined.
Most of Scotland’s deficit (roughly £5bn a year,
or two-thirds of it) is in fact made up of UK debt
repayments. We only have to pay that because
we’re in the UK and the UK keeps loading extra debt
onto Scotland, even though Scotland already pays far
more than its share.



Dave999 wrote:Look up Barnett formula


read this

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/fac ... ster/18821



It’s no secret that the Barnett formula means that Scotland has enjoyed significantly higher spending on public services in general, including healthcare, than England, for many years.

even Mr barnett says his formula is poor and is now favouring scotland

note scotland chose not to spend its £900M windfall for its NHS in the 2000s on its NHS....


Barnett fromual when applied now favours scotland over the north of england deprived areas of london and the midlands

depending on what you read, and id suggest a range of articles (although the one above is quite even handed) we've been propping their spending up for years.

this just makes me annoyed

I'm off to book my tickets north so i can plant my YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN ENGLAND sign at an appropriately dessolate boarder crossing


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Just to add to the DVLA comment.

From the YES Campaign;

Transport functions are currently reserved to the Westminster Government, and delivered by 13 UK- or GBwide specialist transport organisations.

For a period after independence, the Scottish Government proposes that these organisations continue to provide their services in Scotland
under arrangements with the Scottish Government.

A Scottish Motor Services Agency will be formed to manage such things as tax discs and vehicle registration.

Scottish Motor Services Agency, which will bring together the functions of DVLA, DSA, VOSA, and VCA. By the end of the first term of an independent parliament, we will have completed the design and development work, with a view to the Agency going live early in the second Parliament.
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Trigger_Andy wrote:Scottish Motor Services Agency, which will bring together the functions of DVLA, DSA, VOSA, and VCA. By the end of the first term of an independent parliament, we will have completed the design and development work, with a view to the Agency going live early in the second Parliament.
I hope they don't use it as an opportunity to eradicate certain types of cars, as already getting tougher. But when starting from fresh, far more easier to impose regulations ....
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Can't help thinking that the UK is deliberately throwing the 'No' campaign, evidence? Why on earth would anyone let utter bell ends such as Darling & Prescott anywhere near it :lol:

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Was $1.70 in July, back around $1.60 this week. Good times if importing or going to US on vacation at the moment ....
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