Has this 727 kit got all I need ?

Johnny Dart · Post by **Johnny Dart** » Fri Mar 13, 15 6:54 pm

Just got the Darts second MOT test out of the way today, I managed to do a massive 652 miles since its first MOT last year.

I'm now ready to start doing the jobs,rear axle,gearbox, engine.
I need to order up the gearbox rebuild parts. I want to build a box that will take my predicted engine output of 400ish bhp.
I don't think I will be doing any drag strip action , only street use.
What do you autobox buffers think of this kit , that I think will do the trick. What else may I need ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-A727-Tran ... 53ff32d85e

Thanks, all input appreciated

latil · Post by **latil** » Fri Mar 13, 15 7:05 pm

Duncan will put you right

John · Post by **John** » Fri Mar 13, 15 7:09 pm

Is there anything wrong with it at the mo that makes you want to do it?

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Fri Mar 13, 15 7:48 pm

Yep, that'll do, If the box hasn't already got a shift kit I'd get one of those as well.

Johnny Dart · Post by **Johnny Dart** » Fri Mar 13, 15 7:50 pm

JohnS wrote:Is there anything wrong with it at the mo that makes you want to do it?

Yes there is , it has worn clutch plates inside , causing "flare" when you give it the beans from 1st to 2nd.

I want to do the rebuild myself, I have bought the 727 bible book to guide me.

Johnny Dart · Post by **Johnny Dart** » Fri Mar 13, 15 7:54 pm

Blue wrote:Yep, that'll do, If the box hasn't already got a shift kit I'd get one of those as well.

Aha yes Blue, I forgot to put the down, that's the kit we discussed when we messaged last year

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/t ... /overview/

And the 4.? or 5.0 actuator arm ?

John · Post by **John** » Fri Mar 13, 15 7:55 pm

Johnny Dart wrote:
JohnS wrote:Is there anything wrong with it at the mo that makes you want to do it?
Yes there is , it has worn clutch plates inside , causing "flare" when you give it the beans from 1st to 2nd.

I want to do the rebuild myself, I have bought the 727 bible book to guide me.

Ah ok, good for you at having a go. Your a braver man than me, I bought the book but lent it to Mick about a year ago.................

You reading this Mick

Johnny Dart · Post by **Johnny Dart** » Fri Mar 13, 15 8:04 pm

The Dana 44HD axle is all built up, and ready to offer up into place, with a locking diff and super strong shafts.Need the spring plates tacking on , when the angle , and location is spot on
that's the 1st job , but I need to order the auto bits, ready to go , as the 2nd job.
I've also still got to find the high stall 727 converter ,that's in the shed somewhere. I think its a 2000 or 2500 rpm

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Fri Mar 13, 15 8:42 pm

727's are pretty straightforward to rebuild, plus a few of us on here know our way around 'em

Dave999 · Post by **Dave999** » Mon Mar 16, 15 10:40 am

when you weld on your spring plates

make sure your earth clamp is near by

the last ting you want is leccy tracking across the bearings

kinda takes lumps out of the rollers

Or use gas

Dave

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Mon Mar 16, 15 11:15 am

Rebuilding a 727 is actually quite enjoyable and satisfying.
It's not actually very hard. You just have to be methodical. It comes apart as units. You don't need to understand all the ins and outs of the hydraulic valving to do it. Just take your time and don't miss out any seals.

Johnny Dart · Post by **Johnny Dart** » Mon Mar 16, 15 11:17 am

Dave999 wrote:when you weld on your spring plates

make sure your earth clamp is near by

the last ting you want is leccy tracking across the bearings

kinda takes lumps out of the rollers

Or use gas

Dave

Yes Dave ,
I had thought of that one, but its good to be reminded.
And others may not be aware of the arc tracking across,the route of least resistance.
possibly though the diff or half shaft bearings.
I will be earthing to the spring plate itself. That should be OK.

Johnny Dart · Post by **Johnny Dart** » Mon Mar 16, 15 11:21 am

Dave wrote:Rebuilding a 727 is actually quite enjoyable and satisfying.
It's not actually very hard. You just have to be methodical. It comes apart as units. You don't need to understand all the ins and outs of the hydraulic valving to do it. Just take your time and don't miss out any seals.

Yes Dave,
I find it quite satisfying to do this sort of rebuilding myself, and I'm glad people have been suggesting it not too difficult, as this will be the first auto I have done.

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Mon Mar 16, 15 11:28 am

I would suggest you reference a workshop manual for the correct year as well as the book and any instructions you might get with the kit.

Johnny Dart · Post by **Johnny Dart** » Mon Mar 16, 15 6:35 pm

Dave wrote:I would suggest you reference a workshop manual for the correct year as well as the book and any instructions you might get with the kit.

I bought the 727 bilble, super comprehensive