EU Dragons Den Debate - IN or OUT?

latil · Post by **latil** » Fri Feb 19, 16 8:29 pm

Many laws are directives from Brussels that our Govt has to interpret into UK law,so not our Govts' ideas. Sadly they have interpreted some of the rules differently to other EU countries. Of course in the real world the UK shouldn't be in a situation where it's told by an unelected body what it can or can't do.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Fri Feb 19, 16 8:33 pm

I have concluded that whoever you vote for, the government always gets in.

68Runner · Post by **68Runner** » Fri Feb 19, 16 10:21 pm

Guy Fawkes had the right idea.

The Queen has the power to dissolve government if she thinks it's not good for the country using Clause 63 of the Magna Carta

pete walton · Post by **pete walton** » Sat Feb 20, 16 8:21 am

Someone has to be in charge ,someone has to make rules ,sometimes they get it right sometimes they get it wrong .But if someone has to make the rules for me to adhere to ,I want them to be voted in by our democratic system ,I want the rules to come out of Westminster ,,,,,,,,I do not want a Mr Zuncer or who ever it is ,who I never elected who earns more money than Obama telling me what shape my cucumber has to be ..........

Trigger_Andy · Post by **Trigger_Andy** » Sat Feb 20, 16 9:04 am

What shape do our Cucumbers have to be? :O

Agree'd on you comment though, although Id replace Westminster with Hollyrood but sooner Westminster than Brussels.

pete walton wrote:Someone has to be in charge ,someone has to make rules ,sometimes they get it right sometimes they get it wrong .But if someone has to make the rules for me to adhere to ,I want them to be voted in by our democratic system ,I want the rules to come out of Westminster ,,,,,,,,I do not want a Mr Zuncer or who ever it is ,who I never elected who earns more money than Obama telling me what shape my cucumber has to be ..........

latil · Post by **latil** » Sat Feb 20, 16 9:20 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... by-EU.html

Point being,the rules should never have been invented to start with.

MilesnMiles · Post by **MilesnMiles** » Sat Feb 20, 16 9:46 am

This brief article shows what Cameron wanted and what was actually agreed at the summit negotiations.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... hat-he-got

Trigger_Andy · Post by **Trigger_Andy** » Sat Feb 20, 16 11:45 am

It's an utter embarrassment for 'Dave', I really struggle to see how anyone would vote to stay in? To think that this is the crumbs that the EU throw us knowing we're heading for a referendum in. Few months is ludicrous and a clear indication of the utter contempt they hold us in. Not only that they've stated its not binding and can be removed. It's not even worth the paper it's written on.

I'm screwed either way as most daft Scots want to vote SNP who are right up Merkels jaksie.

MilesnMiles wrote:This brief article shows what Cameron wanted and what was actually agreed at the summit negotiations.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... hat-he-got

db · Post by db » Sat Feb 20, 16 11:48 am

If you really want to know what the rest of Europe think of Great Britain, just watch Eurovision

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Sat Feb 20, 16 1:16 pm

db wrote:If you really want to know what the rest of Europe think of Great Britain, just watch Eurovision

Another institution from which we should very clearly withdraw.
You could put any world class UK band in there and still get "Nil Point".

I went to school with a girl whose father wrote that awful Bucks Fizz Ditty and we never heard the last of it..........

mad machs · Post by **mad machs** » Sat Feb 20, 16 1:22 pm

Trigger_Andy wrote:Hollyrood

Whenever I hear or read that, I automatically think of the Jap submarine crew in the film '1941' who are looking to attack Hollywood.

Example-

mad machs · Post by **mad machs** » Sat Feb 20, 16 1:27 pm

June 23rd get yer vote in (or out, preferably out)

Trigger_Andy · Post by **Trigger_Andy** » Sat Feb 20, 16 2:32 pm

mad machs wrote:
Trigger_Andy wrote:Hollyrood
Whenever I hear or read that, I automatically think of the Jap submarine crew in the film '1941' who are looking to attack Hollywood.

Example-

Trigger_Andy · Post by **Trigger_Andy** » Sat Feb 20, 16 2:33 pm

Im surprised at some of the out Conservatives. IDS for one. :O

Not so sure if thats agood thing as he's one of the most hated men in the UK. I wonder if hes a plant to scupper the out vote.

MilesnMiles · Post by **MilesnMiles** » Sat Feb 20, 16 2:57 pm

John Major once described IDS as 'coming from the Broadmoor wing of the party'