EU in or out

MilesnMiles · Post by **MilesnMiles** » Wed Feb 24, 16 2:49 pm

On voting systems I'd have the AMS system used in Scotland and Wales which retains FPTP but adds a proportional elect so every vote counts
So far no Scots government has collapsed. Wales, not quite but any system where safe seats exist wil stop people voting and create complacent politicians
I'm no UKIP fan but democratically they should have got around 85 seats and got one. Meantime SNP got less votes and 56 seats. UKIP got one. Can't be right

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Wed Feb 24, 16 7:46 pm

Carl wrote:
MilesnMiles wrote:Belgium Steve, chocolate and lager. All you need
He's going for the lace Miles.

Cheeky!.....want some if I get a job lot??

Super Sloth · Post by **Super Sloth** » Wed Feb 24, 16 7:58 pm

I quite like the concept of hung parliaments. If nothing else it forces all quarters to focus on the issues that are most important to them.
The status quo of a minority dictating how things are going to be to a majority isn't a just system IMHO.

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Wed Feb 24, 16 9:59 pm

Steve wrote:
Carl wrote:
MilesnMiles wrote:Belgium Steve, chocolate and lager. All you need
He's going for the lace Miles.
Cheeky!.....want some if I get a job lot??

You know I will be happy with any lacy little number you get for me.

db · Post by db » Wed Feb 24, 16 10:18 pm

latil wrote:It will,like the one in 73,when not one person my father spoke to had voted in. He ran a shop and saw a lot of people.
A few bundles of no vote papers thrown in the yes box after counting,blantantly obvious something goes on sometimes.

I never met anyone who voted for Thatcher, nor do I know anyone who voted for Cameron yet they both got in...

Trigger_Andy · Post by **Trigger_Andy** » Wed Feb 24, 16 11:07 pm

Cheers Mucker!

Got myself a wee bit carried away there, there is a slight chance I took things the wrong way.

Although I still feel there is selective viewing by 'those that must not be disobeyed'.

Still, I agree with your sentiments 100%

pete walton wrote:Trigger mate ,,,,bang on the money with some individuals .......living in la la land superb .........some people believe we should all hold hands and walk of into a field of wild flowers with bunny rabbits with bows around there necks to a background of Crosby Stlills and Nash .........whilst the rest of us are prepared to get Bananarama! under our finger nails and live in the real world

Trigger_Andy · Post by **Trigger_Andy** » Wed Feb 24, 16 11:14 pm

I think its called the silent majority? Same on here, there will be a large portion here that view this thread and will keep their cards close to their chest. The lack of people apparently voting for Thatcher or Cameron can be akin to the amount of fighting age Germans after the war who where not Nazi's, never knew what happened in the camps and never hurt anyone.

Regardless which way the vote goes the losing side will have a large majority shuffling their feet and looking at the ground mumbling that they never voted the opposite way. No backbone anymore, we're conditioned to avoid conflict, know our place, keep our heads down, not make a fuss and most importantly do what those that have perceived powers tell us.

db wrote:
latil wrote:It will,like the one in 73,when not one person my father spoke to had voted in. He ran a shop and saw a lot of people.
A few bundles of no vote papers thrown in the yes box after counting,blantantly obvious something goes on sometimes.
I never met anyone who voted for Thatcher, nor do I know anyone who voted for Cameron yet they both got in...

morgan · Post by **morgan** » Thu Feb 25, 16 8:24 am

db wrote: I never met anyone who voted for Thatcher, nor do I know anyone who voted for Cameron yet they both got in...

Most people I know did...

And given that was what the country decided at that election, its reasonable to assume that had this just been BAU (i.e. a government decision) to stay in or out, we'd we in and that would be that.

Thats not the interesting point with this. The interesting bit about this referendum is a) The leading party are divided and b) Its one of the few specific individual items the common man can vote on.

It'll be interesting !

latil · Post by **latil** » Mon Mar 07, 16 7:30 pm

If you have 1/2 hour to spare,watch this. It gives an accurate history of the EU and how it really does or will affect our future

68 beeper · Post by **68 beeper** » Mon Mar 07, 16 9:10 pm

Out out out. Sick of Brussels telling Britain what to do, who do they think they are! get stuffed Brussels !! Lets get back our greatness again we need a strong leader for Britain not some gutless bag of wind , with no back bone like Cameron

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