adrianp wrote:TbH it doesn't really bother me. I probably break the 15% rule and the 8 point rule as well. So I'll continue getting MoTs. The bit that I can quite get a feel for at the moment is that:
"You won’t be able to keep your vehicle’s original registration number if one of the following applies:
it has fewer than 8 points
it has a second-hand or altered chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame"
So does that mean I'm on a Q plate when these come into effect ? Will have to wait and see I suppose.
adrian.
No cause you say nowt,, most testers would not know how the car was originally,
Yep! Or you state all mods were done pre import before 1984 I think it is?
with all the talk about getting rid of petrol and diesel and push towards electric or GREEN cars, would it be a way of getting all the classics off the road for good?
Ali, I think the constant push towards electric vehicles will be what puts us off the road. All the manufacturers are working on hybrid or all electric power, and most will in on the road in the next couple of years, the cost and the lack of a countrywide charging infrastucture are the main things that will hold it back. Assuming those things were addresed, you could have a huge swing to electric within a 5 year period and petrol vehicles would be in a minority meaning even more petrol stations would close and fuel would not be readily available. At that point you have a problem that would be very difficult to overcome.
adrianp wrote:TbH it doesn't really bother me. I probably break the 15% rule and the 8 point rule as well. So I'll continue getting MoTs. The bit that I can quite get a feel for at the moment is that:
"You won’t be able to keep your vehicle’s original registration number if one of the following applies:
it has fewer than 8 points
it has a second-hand or altered chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame"
So does that mean I'm on a Q plate when these come into effect ? Will have to wait and see I suppose.
adrian.
No cause you say nowt,, most testers would not know how the car was originally,
Yep! Or you state all mods were done pre import before 1984 I think it is?
It's 1988 but they could catch you out if you lie. Best to get it mot'ed in my opinion.
with all the talk about getting rid of petrol and diesel and push towards electric or GREEN cars, would it be a way of getting all the classics off the road for good?
I believe it is. Why else would they give up all that revenue from mots.
I'm sure there's more to this then meets the eye.
I have to declare an interest before I comment as I own an MOT Station.
When the pre 60 rule came in I did lose quite a few regulars as we are classic friendly,the majority said they would go with the flow of the regulations and not have their cars tested. Now some of the customers I would absolutely rely on keep their cars in top order,there are a few that come to mind who were nice people but quite often involved you in the "they all do that" conversation.To my mind and even though I know it is only a snapshot of a cars condition loosening the regulation here is a mistake.
How many ads do you see trumpeting that the car benefits from MOT exempt status? I spend a lot of time reading the cars for sale ads,sad I know,but surely the fact that a seller views this as a benefit says it all.I realise that we are all responsible legally for keeping our cars in a roadworthy condition and there would be severe ramifications if you were proved to be driving an unroadworthy car after an accident but removing testing as a part of the road worthiness checks is a mistake.
There were moves afoot a couple of years ago to bring us more in line with Europe,stretching the first test date for new cars out to four years and bringing in bi annual testing thereafter,that has disappeared for the moment thankfully.
As far as revenue goes,the vast majority of the test fee is kept by the MOT Station with the cost of MOT Slots being a relatively small amount,believe it or not if you offer discounted MOTs you are marked down by DVSA when they do a site inspection,and trust me keeping on the right side of the regulations and the local DVSA Rep keep you plenty busy and require investment too.
I don't know why there couldn't be a simplified MOT in the form of a checklist for older cars, surely a much easier solution than what seems to be coming our way.
Blue wrote:I don't know why there couldn't be a simplified MOT in the form of a checklist for older cars, surely a much easier solution than what seems to be coming our way.
They decided that the basic checks required would be too similar to the mot so of no benefit.
I could live with being required to have an annual MOT, I'd be a LOT more worried if this somehow led to the requirement to reclassify any modified car into some non-historic status that required Road Tax and also some stringent certification process. Have not read the document but get the impression from this discussion that that could be on the cards??
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MrNorm wrote:I could live with being required to have an annual MOT, I'd be a LOT more worried if this somehow led to the requirement to reclassify any modified car into some non-historic status that required Road Tax and also some stringent certification process. Have not read the document but get the impression from this discussion that that could be on the cards??
I've read it but need to read it again as I'm sure I missed some key points. I was going to fit a newer engine in my cortina but will wait now until everything has been finalised.
I don't want to end up with a Q plate or lose historic status just because I changed the engine on a car that will be used only occasionally.
I've left them on my A108 and I might even change the Belve back now! 
