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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 12 1:23 pm
by Dave999
if they made the aussie charger handle by ignoring factory settings
in NZ and Aus for saloon car circuit racing and often up against some of the best Europe had to offer at the time (saloons not super cars in this case)

there is really little reason other than weight on the nose to stop an E body handling

the size is different but the ratio of track to length and general proprortions of the car are similar

so in theory even though there must be a 300 kg weight difference

the spring rate /torsion bars chosen should compensate

alloy heads inlet small starter and alternator and the weight problems should be on the way out

most mopars suffer from
worn and sagging rear springs (re temper rather than replace for road use)
and
The factory settings used for camber caster and toe in

i have seen in print a number of times that a rear anti roll bar on a mopar is not necessary unless you are trying to cover up something wrong with the standard set-up i.e ride height and alignment or the combination of spring rates dampers spring front eye hight setting...

whether that is true or not i don't know but i do know that a car that has not been lowered handles better
driving on the suspension not the bump rubbers

Dave

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 1:07 pm
by Sasha
So much potential, but for my first classic car, I have a suspicion this will be a bit too much to take on :(

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1970-PLYMOUTH ... 4d04a29873

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 2:35 pm
by sinny
Sasha wrote:So much potential, but for my first classic car, I have a suspicion this will be a bit too much to take on :(

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1970-PLYMOUTH ... 4d04a29873
Looks pretty good to me & sounds like all you need do is install the motor properly, add exhaust & headers, new carpet & screen & you're good to go! :thumbright:

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 2:35 pm
by RobTwin
That looks like a bargain to me :-k

Isnt it the one blue & Jem were putting together? :scratch:

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 2:38 pm
by Sasha
Just sounds like a lot when you are completely new to the scene. Is this likely to take forever/require a new mortgage?

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 3:00 pm
by Dave-R
If it is the one Blue and Jem were building (it does look like it) then it does indeed still need a lot of work and it is NOT a "factory shaker" It is a 'glass copy in a 'glass hood.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 3:53 pm
by Carl
Doesn't sound like too much work to me if its just the engine to install to get it drivable, the rest can be done over time. I dont think you will find a big block cuda any better for that kind of money

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 4:04 pm
by Sasha
Budget-wise I don't have a set amount £X I want to spend - it really does depend on the car. Naturally I don't have stashes of money sitting around so we're not talking megabucks that some of these beauties are going for.

The reason I posted this one is that it does sound very appealing, but I just have no idea how much work & money finishing some thing like that would take - thus asking for advice on here :)

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 4:32 pm
by Dave-R
Carl wrote:Doesn't sound like too much work to me if its just the engine to install to get it drivable, the rest can be done over time. I dont think you will find a big block cuda any better for that kind of money
Not sure how much work Blue got done on it before Jem decided to sell it. But it was pretty rotten. I think Blue sorted the chassis though and fitted frame connectors?

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 8:19 pm
by Dave81
Looks great in the photo's.

Hard to say if its worth the ££'s. The only way is to get in the car and go and see.......Just dont take the checkbook! :D

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 8:23 pm
by Carl
there is always this one still

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C311519

or this challenger

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C328305

Big price difference

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 8:32 pm
by Dave81
Carl wrote:there is always this one still

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C311519

or this challenger

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C328305

Big price difference
If you can afford that i'd have it in a heartbeat (Cuda)........but then why look at £14k cars that need work.

I would say the only issue in buying a fully restored/mint car is that its hard to personalise without detracting from what it is. It will always be linked with the previous owner/importer/builder too.

At least with a fixer you can put your own stamp and make it what you want.......then its a case of, oh yeah thats Sasha's car! ;)

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 8:50 pm
by R.RUNNER
:P :P :P

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 9:04 pm
by Carl
Dave81 wrote:
Carl wrote:there is always this one still

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C311519

or this challenger

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C328305

Big price difference
If you can afford that i'd have it in a heartbeat (Cuda)........but then why look at £14k cars that need work.

I would say the only issue in buying a fully restored/mint car is that its hard to personalise without detracting from what it is. It will always be linked with the previous owner/importer/builder too.

At least with a fixer you can put your own stamp and make it what you want.......then its a case of, oh yeah thats Sasha's car! ;)
This is the point im making, Sasha is saying the 14k Cuda is too much work, which is reflected in the price. So his other option is to spend 30k + unless he can find something in between, but the Hemi is out the window at those prices, and a 20k car wont be mint

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 12 9:53 pm
by sublimemike
Think it was up for 12k in wiltshire if it was the same car that Blue bought