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Engine out...........pieces of piston in the sump

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 3:23 pm
by Derek
I was going to carry on from the old thread but decided to start a new one so here goes.

As most of you know I had a tapping noise coming from the Charger a while back, cut a long story short it was a rod bearing starting to knock, I put in new shells and all was ok as crank was not damaged,

Anyway, got that sorted and a few weeks ago I decided to drop the sump and have a look at the crank just to make sure all was still ok, got a bit of a shock as I found what turned out to be to pieces of piston, they're from under the oil ring, one bit was in the sump the other in the oil pick up, don't know how long they had been there.

I still used the Charger for a couple of weeks, local show the other week and Wheels Day on Friday.

Saturday morning drove the Charger down to Anton's workshop and within a few hours with the help of Anton and Andy Clarke engine and gearbox were out and stripped down to a bare block, crank still looks good with no marks on it.

Anton gave me the keys to his workshop so that I could go down there over the weekend, I haven't been happy with the look of the engine bay since the garage fire two years ago this easter, I spent a couple of hours today cleaning the bits you can't get to when the enging is in and now it's looking like it used to, much happier.

I'm going to hone the bores put in new shells and rings, I'm going to have a word with my Scott to see what parts he has in his garage so that I can crack on with it, if he can't help I will have to order the parts and wait, should have it all done by next weekend though. [-o<

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 3:36 pm
by Mossy68
Ouch !!!
Any idea what caused the piston failure Del ?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 7:22 pm
by Wolfman
I am sorry to here your engine is giving you grief. Were they new pistons or the old ones?. lets hope you can get a set PDQ What oil do you use. I was going to ask at wheels day how she is going glad I didn't :shock:

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 8:03 pm
by Cannonball
you will need to fully strip that out derek, and clean it 100% cant hone a bore in situ imagine the grit going round

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 8:05 pm
by Derek
Cannonball wrote:you will need to fully strip that out derek, and clean it 100% cant hone a bore in situ imagine the grit going round
Duncan, the pic doesn't show it but it's stripped down to a bare block. :thumbright: it will be honed then cleaned.

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 8:06 pm
by Pete
..and a re-balance? Where do you go for that?

Hope you get it sorted swiftly - knowing you I am sure it will be done well in advance of mine :roll:

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 8:19 pm
by Cannonball
Derek wrote:
Cannonball wrote:you will need to fully strip that out derek, and clean it 100% cant hone a bore in situ imagine the grit going round
Duncan, the pic doesn't show it but it's stripped down to a bare block. :thumbright: it will be honed then cleaned.
nice one matey, ;)

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 8:32 pm
by Dave81
:shock: ........Blimey Derek!

Looks like the Charger is never gonna let you rest!

Cant iagine what would cause the piston to fail like that unless something has gone wrong during the casting/forging process?

Here's hoping that the damage to the rest of the internals is minimal! :thumbright:

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 13 9:21 pm
by Jerry Smith
Derek, seem to think I have a stock set of 440 pistons in the garage, can have a look if you need

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 13 6:26 pm
by Carl
Shame to read this Derek, but look on the bright side, it wasnt a rod through the side. And now the Engines out its a good excuse to do all the other things you want. Good luck :thumbright:

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 13 5:36 pm
by R.RUNNER
While the engine is out....[quote the dodge]......why don`t you paint it the "CORRECT" 1968 colour? :roll: :roll: :roll:




:P :P :P

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 13 8:00 pm
by the dodge
that would be turquoise then

:)

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 13 8:14 pm
by AllKiller
Derek I have a new ATI Good harmonic balancer that would fit that build :D

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 13 9:49 pm
by Derek
R.RUNNER wrote:While the engine is out....
......why don`t you paint it the "CORRECT" 1968 colour? :roll: :roll: :roll:




:P :P :P
Andy, orange it is then. While it's my car I will do what ever I want with it, If you want to buy it from me and change the engine colour you are welcome to. ;) :) ;) :P :P :P

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 13 9:55 pm
by V8 Sam
now now derek, we all know R.Runner has supreme authority of all things mopar!

you must obey his orders :D :lol: