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Roll Cage - Dart 68
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 13 3:41 pm
by GJUK
Hi,
I've had a bit of a look around but no one seems to stock a roll cage for a 68 dart. Is this something I would have to get someone to fabricate for me?
Are there any 'off the shelf' kits (in the UK) which you can buy?
Bolt in or weld in.
Thanks
Jon
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 13 4:03 pm
by Mick
Do you mean a roll bar or cage and will you be driving it on the street ?
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 13 5:14 pm
by Blue
Nothing off the shelf in the UK. Any of the race shops in the UK can do it, but it will be pricey. Better off getting one of the smaller shops to do it such as Dave Billedeau.
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 13 6:01 pm
by Jerry Smith
Jon as blue says your better getting one built, and the price will vary depending on how much cage you want, 4,6,8 point etc and what material, either CDS or chrome moly (also known as 4130) if it's street/strip a 6 point (main hoop, 2 bars to the boot and 2 door bars, these can be made to swing out for easier acces) cage in CDS would be more than adequate, (this is all you need to run 10.0-11.99 in completion)
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 14 5:24 pm
by pete walton
What would make the lightest cage,material wise that is , ???
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 14 6:18 pm
by Blue
Chrome moly, because it is inherently stronger you can use a thinner wall tube for quite considerable weight savings. Or you can always do what they did in the early days, make it out of exhaust tubing and stuff it full of rolled up newspaper to make it sound thicker than it is
In fact Wild Willie Borsch used to make his complete fuel Altered chassis from exhaust tubing 'cos he worked in a muffler shop. I mean it's not like he drove it hard or anything....
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 14 8:16 pm
by GJUK
A newspaper cage would be cheaper...
Thanks everyone
Jon
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 14 8:24 pm
by db
Exhaust stuffed with newspaper... quality bodge
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 14 9:31 pm
by Jerry Smith
Moly is around half the weight of equivalent cds tube, but is much harder to bend/cut/notch, worth it in the end tho, next time I'm at the workshop I'll weigh 1 meter of 1 5/8 moly and cds to get a comparison if you want
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 14 7:46 am
by GJUK
I've had a quote. Cheap cage, check out the ****ing shipping!!
PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION ORDERED SALE
SAW11-2534 10PT ROLL CAGE 67-76 DART/SCAMP/SWINGER 1 289.95
2SW13-353-8 ROLL BAR MOUNTING PADS - SET OF 8 1 0.00
* * * TOTALS * * * ESTIMATE AMOUNT 1,017.01
MERCHANDISE 289.95
SHIPPING & HANDLING 727.06
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 14 8:20 am
by RobTwin
GJUK wrote:I've had a quote. Cheap cage, check out the ****ing shipping!!
PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION ORDERED SALE
SAW11-2534 10PT ROLL CAGE 67-76 DART/SCAMP/SWINGER 1 289.95
2SW13-353-8 ROLL BAR MOUNTING PADS - SET OF 8 1 0.00
* * * TOTALS * * * ESTIMATE AMOUNT 1,017.01
MERCHANDISE 289.95
SHIPPING & HANDLING 727.06
Yikes! I guess that's air freight?
If you're not in too much of a hurry, I'd suggest getting it shipped to someone like STS Imports (Ron Fenton on here) who has a unit in Florida and ships cars/parts here in containers by sea, roughly once a month. You still have to pay the tax & duty of course, but the shipping usually works out a lot cheaper
Check his latest shipping thread here:
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic ... highlight=
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 14 10:17 am
by GJUK
Nice one mate.
Jon
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 14 10:18 am
by AllKiller
Jon Webster built the cage in Pauls Hurst a Like 68 Dart Beauty
full cage £850 built and fitted 5 years ago though
Webster Race engineering
http://www.webster-race-engineering.co. ... cation.htm
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 14 10:28 am
by GJUK
Cheers, looking at all options at the moment
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 14 12:06 pm
by Blue
Just remembered, there's a A body main hoop down the workshop in 1 5/8" CDS, that's a start...