A body disc brakes dilemma

paolo_mangusta · Post by **paolo_mangusta** » Wed Sep 07, 05 5:23 pm

I think I know the answer to this, which is that I've no hope, but can anyone help me out?

My Dart has got the Kelsey-hayes four piston caliper disc set up. The calipers stuck on on one piston on each side and killed the discs while I was happily bombing around and so I bought new pads and caliper rebuild kits and tried to see if I could get the scoring skimmed out. The machine shop said the discs were already too thin so I left the complete hub/rotor assembly at my ex-boss's place which is above the machining place (long story, but I'd got a lift down there with them and so needed to leave them there for a bit. This was a mistake)

Anyway, no-one in this country could get the discs so I got some shipped over from the States and rebuilt the calipers.

But when I went back to pick-up my old discs they weren't there. Ex-boss swears blind he hasn't thrown them out (and he had no reason to) but they're gone.

So now I have a brand new set of hard-to-get discs, a pair of rebuilt calipers and nothing to attach them to.

I'm guessing the chances of getting a set of the original type hubs are pretty low, but does anyone have any or know of anything else that will fit? Do you think I could get a hub adapted or made from scratch? I know the best thing would be a flash set up from the States, but I can't afford those prices, esp since it will mean new wheels and tyres.

Really, I'm just grasping at straws since between this and my knackered block I can't see me being Mopar-motivated any time soon

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Sep 07, 05 6:45 pm

I can't see any reason why you won't be able to get replacement hubs

Try a wanted ad on here, also try Dunc, if you can't find any here i'll get some secondhand ones from the states no problem

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Wed Sep 07, 05 6:50 pm

What year is the car. That info is vital.

paolo_mangusta · Post by **paolo_mangusta** » Wed Sep 07, 05 8:35 pm

Cheers for the optimism, guys

The car is a '72, 318, and I think the K-H disc set-up was an original option on the car. The discs are vented, and the calipers are four-piston fixed ones. I understood these to be pretty rare, which when I bought the car I thought was a good thing

I'll post a wanted ad and see how I get on. I suppose with so many people upgrading to big discs now I might get lucky.

Is Dunc Cannonball?

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Wed Sep 07, 05 9:35 pm

The 1973-76 versions are sought after by people wanting to upgrade to bigger discs. This makes those ones hard to find now. But the 1972-down versions should be available.

Guy · Post by **Guy** » Thu Sep 08, 05 7:14 am

Dunc is breaking a 69 340 Dart so you may be lucky give him a call

paolo_mangusta · Post by **paolo_mangusta** » Thu Sep 08, 05 10:46 am

Cheers Guy that sounds promising, I'll give him a try (have now worked out that Dunc and Cannonball are one and the same!)

paolo_mangusta · Post by **paolo_mangusta** » Thu Jan 19, 06 9:53 pm

Bump!

paolo_mangusta · Post by **paolo_mangusta** » Fri Jan 20, 06 9:49 am

Hello, I still need to find some hubs to get my car back on the road.

Everyone sells these as part of a complete set-up for big bucks, and according to Wil many of the hubs are likely to have spun the bearings and be scrap anyway. Wilwood no longer do a kit, and anyway I can't afford anything fancy, not least because by the time I've bought the new wheels and tyres that I'd need to fit over bigger brakes I'm spending well into four figures.

I could sell my new discs and rebuilt calipers (though I'm not sure who to) and switch to the later single-piston set up, but since the K-H brakes are a rare option, I think it would be a shame. And you 've got to source quite a lot of bits that aren't exactly that common.

The best option is likely to be to getting some made by someone like Hauser. Does anyone have a hub, or even these brakes fitted to their car so I can get them measured and copied?

Bear in mind that anyone who helps can get their name in the country's biggest-selling classic car magazine

(not very exciting, I know, but I'm desperate now!)

Thanks for any help anyone can give me

Cheers

Paul

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jan 20, 06 11:41 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MoPar-Di ... 2019QQrdZ1

here's a start, in Portland Oregon, where Don is so no shipping, just get the guy to take em to FBO and we'll handle the rest

looks like you going to have to go 5 on 4.5 anyway

paolo_mangusta · Post by **paolo_mangusta** » Fri Jan 20, 06 12:32 pm

Cheers Wil, that's on my watch list from last night's ebay marathon

I'm going to establish that I definitely can't get the proper hubs before I switch to the later type, and have to get new wheels (and I think tyres as well - anyone know if that set-up goes under a 14" steel?)

After all, I don't want you to have brought those discs over for nothing! Since no-one else seems to have the same brakes I don't know if I'll manage to get any where near what I spent on the rotors back

One guy who's selling a kit on ebay thinks he might have the hubs to put up on a separate auction, so I'm crossing my fingers...

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Jan 21, 06 12:26 am

if you can get him to agree a fixed price and time he's going to put them on then just buy it now, allmost guaranteed that way. good luck with it.

paolo_mangusta · Post by **paolo_mangusta** » Tue Jan 24, 06 9:38 pm

Of course, he hadn't included them in the auction, no-one bid on the incomplete set, so now I've alerted him that he needs to include the hubs by asking about them. So now he's offering it as a complete set for $500.

So back to the drawing board again

Are there any in this country I could at least get measurements from? I think it's going to be cheaper to get some made than spend ?200-300 plus shipping etc on some from the States only find that they're worn out and have to get some made anyway...

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Tue Jan 24, 06 9:48 pm

Dave Madders has a 4 pot set up but it is Bendix calipers??

paolo_mangusta · Post by **paolo_mangusta** » Wed Jan 25, 06 8:45 am

Thanks Alex, I need the K-H type from the A-body, which I think are different. However, just got in to find a email from Doc Mopar to say he has some

(Cheers for the tip, Latil)

So now I've just got to get them from Texas and I'll be back on the road (I've decided to just stick the 318 back together for now - miss the car too much to wait until I can afford to do the 360)

I'm imagining engine noises in my head now