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Secondary Gauge set
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 16 2:31 pm
by Garp
Hi all,
So the next undertaking for me is to fit a set (3 housed together) of generic water, oil and amps gauges in a removable binnacle hanging under the dash console. I've seen loads of folk with them ....
My current ones appear to work - temp gauge never goes above "C" for cold but doesn't smoke either, amps are dead on center and oil light hasn't gone on - but just in case they aren't functioning i'd like to be sure !
My question being: are there enough ports in my 340 to run both simultaneously or do I have to disconnect the "originals" and tap into their ports for the "new".
Any help or hints on this would be very welcomed - there is a vid' on Youtube but the geezer goes at his firewall with a forstner bit cutting a 2" hole for a single cable - after seeing this I decided not to follow his advice ! I'm guessing there must be several routes through already there - 74 Dodge Challenger,
Thanks in advance
garp
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 16 10:43 pm
by Charger
I would go for a voltmeter not ammeter
a voltmeter only has to tap into an ignition switched circuit to get a reading
an ammeter has to have ALL the cars electricery circuits going through it
if your existing ammeter stays dead centre it may have already been bypassed
have a read of this about ammeters …
http://www.madelectrical.com/electrical ... uges.shtml
for water temperature and oil pressure use mechanical gauges, more accurate
I’ve not done it but I believe you can get water and oil bosses that have dual outlet so you can run the original sender / original gauges and the mechanical gauges as well
have a look at what I did, I ran the capillaries thro a hole on the passenger side, on the inside the hole is just above the heater box …
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic ... &start=120
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 16 12:09 am
by sublimemike
That's interesting - anyone know any more about the dual bosses??
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 16 10:05 am
by Charger
I think this is where I saw it …
http://www.realsteel.co.uk/section8.pdf
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 16 10:06 am
by Charger
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 16 9:43 pm
by sublimemike
Thanks Si

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 16 8:08 am
by Garp
Thanks - will look into the dual sender option.

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 16 9:08 am
by Adam
I run one of those dual senders, to keep the idiot light functioning. Can't be watching the gauge all the time. Poked the capillary tube through the firewall grommet for the accelerator cable, as I recall.
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 16 12:11 pm
by Garp
Adam wrote:I run one of those dual senders, to keep the idiot light functioning. Can't be watching the gauge all the time. Poked the capillary tube through the firewall grommet for the accelerator cable, as I recall.
cool - sounds easy enough. Where did you get the sender and do you have details of it ?
Thanks
garp
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 16 2:48 pm
by Adam
It's the same as that one from Real Steel, though I think I got mine in the States.
Your existing electrical sender screws into the end, and there's a take off for the capillary on the side.
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 16 3:49 pm
by Blue
That will sort out the Oil pressure gauge, you may have a plugged port on your intake manifold that goes into water that you could use for the temp gauge without disturbing the stock sender. It would be at the front by the thermostat housing. If you don't you'd have to drill & tap to suit.
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 16 6:27 pm
by Garp
Thanks chaps. Jobs for next weekend sorted then.
Will order one from real steel as now it makes more sense since you explained it.
Will check for a water port when at the car tomorrow- cheers

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 16 6:05 pm
by Garp
Can I use these two "extra" ports instead of running off a "T" fitting ....
Posted: Mon Feb 29, 16 6:30 pm
by Pete
Yep, take your pick - or more likely which you can get out. As long as it is in the water jacket you will be fine.
Posted: Mon Feb 29, 16 6:39 pm
by Guy
The top photo is nothing to do with the oil pressure that is into a intake runner and would only give you a vacuum .