Non Mopar trans- URGENT HELP!!!

db · Post by db » Tue Jan 11, 05 8:19 pm

I've foolishly loaned my precious D100 to a mate who promptly drove it into a ditch! In his efforts to get it out he's killed the trans somehow

It's a Rover engine/box out of a P6 Circa 1978.
It was professionally rebuilt 1 year/ 1000miles ago and has been faultless since and has been kept topped up with good quality fluid.
It's now lost all forward gears, reverse is fine.
It was at a 'helluvan angle' in the ditch and he tried to drive it out but failed, when it got towed out i got him to check fluid level (get it hot, thru all gears then dip it at idle)- no fluid on dipstick! He added 1/2 litre at a time til up to the mark- still no joy.
A 'mechanic' advised him to tow it at 30mph in drive and this would 'free it'

He didn't, thankfully!!!
So, any ideas anyone? Has he fried/snapped a belt? Have the little pixies who we all know actually make a trans work escaped while it was leaned over? Is it an opportunity to bung a cheap 318 combo in there probably for less than it'll cost to fix the trans?

LATEST NEWSFLASH- He's trying to get the AA to fetch it to mine and the are refusing on grounds of weight!!!!!
It's been on a weighbridge an clocks in at a nimble 1700Kilos (sorry- dunno what that is in real money...) LESS than a Range Rover.
They wont accept that this is the real weight and are insisting he reads the gross weight from the dash plate (i.e. the weight with a 318 in place)

If this is the case i hope none of us are in the AA !!!!

Ivor · Post by **Ivor** » Tue Jan 11, 05 8:23 pm

Blimey! It doesn't sound like he did it any favours anyway, sounds like Dunc or Blue to the rescue on this one!

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 11, 05 8:25 pm

No, not any more. We used to get all sorts of get out clause speak from the AA. So we ditched them for the RAC who so far have always been great.

db · Post by db » Tue Jan 11, 05 8:39 pm

UPDATE- AA are on their way.
I dropped 'em a while ago for similar squirming tactics, you'd think they were an insurance company the way they try an wriggle out of it

I'm with Brittannia now- fastest recovery ive ever had an no messing!

TrevD · Post by **TrevD** » Tue Jan 11, 05 8:58 pm

i agree , dunc or blue will know the answers , but i feel a mopar and 727 box are the answer, you cant beat a mopar in a mopar and not as expensive as some may think , except for the fuel economy

db · Post by db » Tue Jan 11, 05 9:40 pm

LATEST... The AA mechanic showed up, couldn't fix it an sent for a lowloader

Unbelievable- if they were gonna send a mechanic anyway what did the weight matter?

Methinks my early night aint gonna happen...

Wise words Trev, unfortunately i use the truk a lot an short of gassin it, the rover lump is the only way i can afford to run it

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Tue Jan 11, 05 9:48 pm

Not an expert on these at all but trying to think what might happen in a position such as this...if a trans cooler line is nipped from the Bananarama! might cause problems like this. If a lot of fluid leaked out it would do that too. Maybe the kickdown lever knocked out?

With it being non-mopar I can only guess really because it may work in a different way.

Burning the clutches out would make it slip I think but it would still give you some drive.

I once revved a 318 like mad and then dropped it into gear in order to make an impressive launch from some lights (I was very young). That lost me all forward gears. It would reverse though. What happened was I stripped the teeth of the inside of the planetary gears......

TrevD · Post by **TrevD** » Tue Jan 11, 05 10:09 pm

Paul , verrrry silly idea , if it is terminal why not fit a diesel , not much fun but verry good on fuel , all my daily drivers ( all 4 of them) are diesel (50mpg leaves more cash to spend on the duster)

Kev · Post by **Kev** » Tue Jan 11, 05 10:16 pm

And down the pub, trev!

db · Post by db » Tue Jan 11, 05 10:18 pm

Ouch! I guess that kicked off your education in autos!
A pinched line is a good possibility- it went over pretty heavily from what i gather. He's cheched the shift linkage, that still goes thru full travel, didn't think of the kickdown but that's a cable on this box so unlikely...
I expected it to be fine once the fluid was back in it, i wonder if revving it when tipped over could've done anything?

Time will tell....meanwhile we await the slowloader

db · Post by db » Tue Jan 11, 05 10:21 pm

Well according to Tweety diesels are the future!! (now if we can just figure a way to get rid of the smell of chips

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db · Post by db » Wed Jan 12, 05 12:09 am

TRUKS HOME

mmm bed.....

Kev · Post by **Kev** » Wed Jan 12, 05 12:11 am

I hope you told himm "you bend !rm you mrnd 'em!

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Jan 12, 05 12:22 am

The last P6B 3500 was built in Dec 1976, so engine must be SD1 type with possibly the BW65 box, though they did have Chrysler box's aswell!
Course none of that is going to help you!

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Jan 12, 05 12:25 am

Oh forgot, I had a BW35 box loose all forward drive after very heavy braking and coming to a halt, but it still had reverse. Scrapped it and bought another, cheap and plentiful.