big bad hem in a 69 dart

Ivor · Post by **Ivor** » Sat Dec 29, 07 1:21 pm

Don't worry Dunc, I'm going for it alright...even chased Rosie around the Christmas tree to get me present!

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Dec 29, 07 3:37 pm

well there's a big bad 572 with a couple of PT88's hanging off it heading for Southampton that's for sure...
Trev I need some R5 bits for the NASCAR lump, gearbox adapter, and a motor plate- not for a Mopar this time though

Donnie's got the Procharger lump heading his way also, and someone should jump on that pronto- loads of HP without all the hassle of KB hemis

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 01, 08 2:03 am

Well we pulled tweety off the lift yesterday- quite and emotional moment as it's been sitting there since the accident in Dec' 2003.
I have a big plan for the old yellow heap- happy new year

mopar_mark · Post by **mopar_mark** » Tue Jan 01, 08 2:35 am

tweety wrote:well there's a big bad 572 with a couple of PT88's hanging off it heading for Southampton that's for sure...

Donnie's got the Procharger lump heading his way also, and someone should jump on that pronto- loads of HP without all the hassle of KB hemis

Without all the hassle of KB Hemis

Hassle with KB Hemis, not the ones I know of

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 01, 08 2:36 pm

apart from waiting 10 minutes to warm the thing up 'cos of the zero lash cam, the water leaks, oil leaks trying to get the valve covers on and off to adjust the valves then keeping the seals in the plug tubes- er I'll stick with my wimpy smallblocks if you please

This is Arrington's de-tuned pump gas NASCAR motor, cool or what!

http://www.arringtonengines.com/product ... 6-c-i.html
I'm just having the turbo cam ground for mine, what a saga this that has been- but doing something different usually is, if you want easy buy a chevy

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Wed Jan 02, 08 8:28 pm

You need to edit that link and drop the last dot off the end to make it work Andy. Killer looking engine though

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Jan 02, 08 9:20 pm

consider it done, I should probably add an I to Hem in the title also eh

Ritter's old partner from the Comp Eliminator record days now runs the CNC shop at Arrington's and there is so much of that Ex NASCAR stuff around now it would be rude not to reuse it I say.
Add a couple of turbos and fuel injection and BOOM as farmer Ted would say.
Still 700+ HP normally aspirated on pump gas from a 358 ci smallblock ain't too shabby either

In Nextel cup trim one of those engines makes as much power as my old 557 hemi made with with a monster 1150 Dominator on top. Except the smallblock uses a weenie little Holley and a resticthor plate with holes about the size of a 50 p piece in it and runs ridiculousy lean to keep the MPG figures up and has to do it for lap after lap up and down through the powerband everytime it get's near a corner. Impressive stuff indeed..
And for $18,000 for a used one it's a bargain-http://www.arringtonengines.com/product ... 8-c-i.html

mopar_mark · Post by **mopar_mark** » Wed Jan 02, 08 11:11 pm

Gotta admit $16,000/$18,000 is not a lot of money for what you get. Pro Stock Hemi is only $40,000

How come they are so cheap, compared to lot of other stuff out there

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Jan 02, 08 11:47 pm

Mark if you can buy a REAL Prostock hemi for $40 grand I'd get a container load and sell them to the NHRA boys - they'd snap them up.
These ones on this site are used, old spec, they get rings and bearings and then they sell them off. I got mine all in bits, brand new crank, a special experimental set of rods with bigger journals, most of these NEXTEL Cup jobbies use 1.88" Honda style bearings, then I've got custom turbo pistons, custiom Cometic head gaskets.
The real trick was getting some honing plates and the cam ground, Comp wanted $2300 to whittle one out of a billet, no-one has an unground lobe blank witih wide enough separatieon for my needs.
But as usual we came up with a cunning plan

And the beauty of all these engines is most of the ancillaries are down the left side of the motor, dry sump pump etc which leaves loads of room down the right hand side for a steering column, just where it should be- and oh boy are the hillbilly's and Mopar purists going to hate this new car...

mopar_mark · Post by **mopar_mark** » Wed Jan 02, 08 11:59 pm

tweety wrote:Mark if you can buy a REAL Prostock hemi for $40 grand I'd get a container load and sell them to the NHRA boys - they'd snap them up

I gathered for $40k it wasnt an up to date pro stock, but $16k/$18k for a screamin small block is not bad at all, maybe its the dollar rate that makes em seem reasonable. Especially when you see the prices out there for complete piles of junk.

Going back to your earlier Hemi comments, I personally had my valve covers off a couple of times during my dyno sessions & re installed & never had an issue with oil leaks. It wasnt though I was taking extra extra care, as I wasn't aware of the issue till you mentioned it.

Time required to warm up the motor, was a price I was prepared to pay. I will let you know about the water leaks as and when I find em.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Jan 03, 08 1:43 pm

those big shiny rocker covers certainly make a statement in the engine bay that's for sure, on Donnie's 572 the cam guys decided to fit a zero lash cam and I mean ZERO at cold, so you have to sit around and wait until the water temp gets to about 170F before you go anywhere, not really practical for street use I'd say, but WTF do I know?
Get in and turn the key for me these days, must be getting old

Brrrr is cold here today 5F (-14C I think) - now some fool and that would be me -has to go and spread 150lbs of salt on the driveway so I can get a crane truck up here to move the concrete steps, tum tee tum.
Still I'm finally getting around to insulating the barn and fitting a proper heating system in there, should be nice and toasy in there soon

just got in from the cold, one 500lb frozen concrete step levered off the
top of the pallet and the other four returned to the man, it's always a laugh working outside in these temperatures...

TrevD · Post by **TrevD** » Thu Jan 03, 08 10:07 pm

so finaly your getting my winter home insulated

. maybe i will pop over and test the temperature for you. all you need is some nice cnc machinary and were laughing

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jan 04, 08 12:40 am

and with the state of the economy here and all the little engineering firms going broke I'd say we could get a nice CNC machine for about the price of a box of cornflakes

Just push the 240 Z into the barn now I'm VERY happy, kin hell it

's cold here though

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Jan 09, 08 11:09 am

Rob just found the video I sent him of the hemi being dyno'd at Barton's a while back when I owned it- interesting and I'd forgotten how loud that thing is in an enclosed space- ouch.
Barton Junior is at the helm...

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jan 09, 08 1:18 pm

Go Canada! Those boys know there cars alright, such a good scene over there!