Bodywork restorers?

[Anonymous]

and ther is some places you cant get to as it was sealed while it was asembled in the factory.

.....but they were still rotten old dogs by the end of the 70's (unless they were in a State that had 364.5 days blazing sunshine per year).

Waxoyl.

[Anonymous]

Maybe Phill440 can give his 2 cents, his car was dipped I believe and it has been on the road a couple of years now

Apparently, Phil has to get his car out of the garage with a dustpan and brush these days.


Lets not be naive here, there are drawbacks to EVERYTHING. Handbashing the car back to metal can only be done to places you can get to, leaving rust in the places you can't. Hands up if you can get all of the rust out of the door skins. Sorry, can't see em, they are obviously too small.

Come on boys, lets not get led round by the nose by the yanks. Listening to them tell you they know everything for long enough will make you end up believing it.

[Anonymous]

After speaking to john his not dipping his own car so will follow his advice and have mine blasted.

[Ivor]

I can understand peoples concerns, but cars that have been acid stripped for the removal of paint, won't fall apart at the seams!

All the bodyshells were spot welded at the factory and the structural parts of the shell like the inner and outer sills are made of good quality heavy duty steel and the factory sealants and mastics play a very minor part in the overall rigidity and durability of the car, they are there to stop panels rattling, keep out the elements and protect the joints.

The only thing that could have an adverse effect on the strength of those joints would be extended dipping in a powerful acid, such as that used when lightening the shells, or if the joints were already compromised by advanced corrosion, but this would indicated panel replacement or repair anyway.

The comparitively mild acids used for paint removal are highly unlikely to cause any structural problems, particularly after neutralisation, cleaning and thorough drying and either electrophoretic deposition or immediate application of an etch primer, in my case, contrary to what it may infer on the old holden board, I would go with a two pack epoxy etch primer, but that's me!

I would imagine that John Castleman has his reasons for moving away from acid dipping, but I would think that is more to do with quality of service more than anything.

But I'm sure he'll pipe in, when he gets a moment!:thumbright:

[R.RUNNER]

but cars that have been acid stripped for the removal of paint, won't fall apart at the seams!:

Don`t these "IDIOTS" know the difference between acid stripping to remove paint and acid dipping to reduce the metal content of the panels..........( we all know what happened to Big Willies Daytona) seems that the "DIY resto" brigade are alive and well and still can`t afford to get the work done the right way. Put up or shut up......that`s what I say?

And by the way, some people should get their facts right before they "GO TO PRINT"

[mopar_mark]

but cars that have been acid stripped for the removal of paint, won't fall apart at the seams!:

Don`t these "IDIOTS" know the difference between acid stripping to remove paint and acid dipping to reduce the metal content of the panels..........( we all know what happened to Big Willies Daytona) seems that the "DIY resto" brigade are alive and well and still can`t afford to get the work done the right way. Put up or shut up......that`s what I say?

And by the way, some people should get their facts right before they "GO TO PRINT"

Still walking on egg shells I see

[Anonymous]

but cars that have been acid stripped for the removal of paint, won't fall apart at the seams!:

Don`t these "IDIOTS" know the difference between acid stripping to remove paint and acid dipping to reduce the metal content of the panels..........( we all know what happened to Big Willies Daytona) seems that the "DIY resto" brigade are alive and well and still can`t afford to get the work done the right way. Put up or shut up......that`s what I say?

And by the way, some people should get their facts right before they "GO TO PRINT"

[Anonymous]

After speaking to john his not dipping his own car so will follow his advice and have mine blasted.

....and thats because of the service he is getting from the dippers. They have had to put on a 24/7 operation to cope with the demand, being the ONLY company in the country with tanks big enough to dip a car like a 56 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz. The down side is, they are slinging the bodyshells around like conkers to get the jobs out the door. He doesnt want cars coming back needing more work than when they left his shop. You can't knock that.

[Anonymous]

Sorry did not explain reason. I wanted to replace rusted panels and any welding repairs done before dipping so that car came back clean and primed. so if cars are getting damaged this is not the way a head for me

[JC]

He go's we would like to have the shells dipped but at this time its taking much to long up there and the shells are coming back with a lot of damage
they will not pay to have that repaired and we do not want to put that cost on to the customers and i cannot afford to cover the cost myself.the way we are doing the shells cutting off the panels and then blasting is fine,
lets hope the dippers sort themselves out or someone else starts up.

We still strive for perfection

[JustinMFox]

But your average working class person(Who these cars mainly appeal to) can afford £60k restorations though Mr Runner : )

[R.RUNNER]

But your average working class person(Who these cars mainly appeal to) can afford £60k restorations though Mr Runner : )

I know they CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JustinMFox]

Hehehe you got me : ), ok your average person CAN'T afford £60k restos

[Anonymous]

Hey justin, thats the thick end of the wedge mate. If you don't get any crazy ideas it can cost less.

[JustinMFox]

Yeah I know, i'm only mucking about, on the DC forums the aero cars section is always a good read, it's scary how much some of those guys spend on Daytona and Superbird restos