1968 Valiant SB 9.844 @ 134.04 - Now retired

AllKiller · Post by **AllKiller** » Sat Oct 31, 09 9:06 pm

Im liking this...very trick little car...gonna upset quite a few B/B cars i feel

Just a thought should nt the Pump be lower than the fuel level in the cell to help it out,.. draw + heat build up v gravity ?

Jon Connolly · Post by **Jon Connolly** » Sun Nov 01, 09 10:46 am

Im liking this...very trick little car...gonna upset quite a few B/B cars i feel

Just a thought should nt the Pump be lower than the fuel level in the cell to help it out,.. draw + heat build up v gravity ?

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I know what you`re saying Allkiller but this set up seems to work. All pumps are self priming so it isn`t an issue if it is above or below the tank. I`m not using a return line to keep weight down. Also I`m using a fuel line cooler and then a fuel regulator just before the carburettor .... the set up worked well all last year.

Having said that pump may not last as long installed this way ?????

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Sun Nov 01, 09 5:57 pm

Because vane type pumps blow better than they suck if you like, it's always better to gravity feed them for maximum flow. I used to have a holley pump that would cavitate because it was higher than the tank, Had to blow down the tank filler to get it to pump fuel

My car must be made of lead 'cos I can't get it anywhere near that weight for some reason.

Jon Connolly · Post by **Jon Connolly** » Wed Nov 04, 09 9:28 am

Fitting the new wheels, discs and calipers today and weighed the new ones versus the old ones.

Old wheels + old discs + old calipers = 39.5 kg
New wheels + new discs + new calipers = 23.7 kg

Overall weight saving = 31.6 kg ( 69.5 lbs )

And that`s just one mod.

Kev · Post by **Kev** » Wed Nov 04, 09 10:46 am

My Wilwoods had to go on a drum brake spindle, rather than disc spindles. Perhaps that is the difference?
Loving the build

Jon Connolly · Post by **Jon Connolly** » Wed Nov 04, 09 11:13 am

Thanks Kev

These spindles I made from the old disk spindles that were on the car.

Shame you`re not still around ... could have had a bit of head to head Valiant racing.

Ivor · Post by **Ivor** » Wed Nov 04, 09 11:15 am

I love reading threads like this...I wonder if the Valiants were lighter than the later Darts to start with...I thought Blue's was about as light as you could get!

Kev · Post by **Kev** » Wed Nov 04, 09 11:27 am

CARL BURGER DODGE wrote:Thanks Kev

These spindles I made from the old disk spindles that were on the car.

Shame you`re not still around ... could have had a bit of head to head Valiant racing.

Hell Yeah! That would have been a gig!

Cannonball · Post by **Cannonball** » Wed Nov 04, 09 12:19 pm

Ivor wrote:I love reading threads like this...I wonder if the Valiants were lighter than the later Darts to start with...I thought Blue's was about as light as you could get!

wel ivor there is something very odd with it, we took the critical cuda to be weighed yesterday and it came in at a staggering 2,904lbs that is well heavy considering the whole front is glass and the car looks light,
i thoughty it would have been circay 2,600

so we got an honest 820hp,

Ivor · Post by **Ivor** » Wed Nov 04, 09 1:07 pm

Well you won't get a lighter driver will you?

820 hp? Now that would go nice in the Valiant!

Jon Connolly · Post by **Jon Connolly** » Wed Nov 04, 09 1:26 pm

I just checked my weight ticket in case I had made a mistake and it was definately 1128 Kg before the last bit of weight loss.

1128 kg - 31 Kg ( wheel mods ) - 3 Kg ( boot floor etc ) = 1094 Kg ( 2406 lbs ) MAX. WITHOUT DRIVER.

Plus other weight to come out too

Cannonball · Post by **Cannonball** » Wed Nov 04, 09 1:29 pm

CARL BURGER DODGE wrote:I just checked my weight ticket in case I had made a mistake and it was definately 1128 Kg before the last bit of weight loss.

1128 kg - 31 Kg ( wheel mods ) - 3 Kg ( boot floor etc ) = 1094 Kg ( 2406 lbs ) MAX. WITHOUT DRIVER.

Plus other weight to come out too

yep spot on jon, bris was 1320kg his charger was the same give or take a few kgs

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Thu Nov 05, 09 9:31 am

Hmm, after a bit of thinking, I can can see where I have a big chunk of weight. My car was weighed at full street weight, which is what I race at, so that includes full exhaust system, 70lbs of battery and 16 gallons of fuel. That little lot tot's up to 286lb by my calculations

After Pete's episode, using 16 gallons of fuel as ballast isn't the brightest of ideas. Little project for the winter then...

Ivor · Post by **Ivor** » Thu Nov 05, 09 9:37 am

You're gonna drill holes in the gas tank then?

Cannonball · Post by **Cannonball** » Thu Nov 05, 09 11:17 am

Blue wrote:Hmm, after a bit of thinking, I can can see where I have a big chunk of weight. My car was weighed at full street weight, which is what I race at, so that includes full exhaust system, 70lbs of battery and 16 gallons of fuel. That little lot tot's up to 286lb by my calculations After Pete's episode, using 16 gallons of fuel as ballast isn't the brightest of ideas. Little project for the winter then...

blue we never have more than 3 gallon on board,